Crazy situation at Indiana

[The Lens]

Defaming kids on a message board is pretty low class, DKCL.  Don't blame Crean for "leaking" this info.  Blame yourself for carelessly posting this s*** on a message board.  Take some responsibility for your own actions.

Only posting here, what has been has been said here before and other places.  TC loved to throw kids under the bus after they were gone with: "They were beyond repair, I couldn't do a thing". 

BTW, I'm not defaming, I'm repeating what I have been led to believe are facts. And actually what I'm doing is repeating what TC has insinuated.  I didn't call those guys any of those things, I showed how TC liked to spin illnesses to work his way.

[ChicosBailBonds]

TC said those things publicly?  Not saying you're wrong, but cannot remember those comments or insinuations made about a particular illness.

[RawdogDX]

This is all crazy.  If we take a look at every word that comes out of his mouth and take everyone of those to the extreme then yes he's throwing kids under the bus.  Or he might have just said that he knows a kid plays poker, has a beer or seems to be moody.  Is anyone on this board a public figure who has his words scrutinized by a bunch people looking to rake him over the coals?

[MUViking]

Only posting here, what has been has been said here before and other places.  TC loved to throw kids under the bus after they were gone with: "They were beyond repair, I couldn't do a thing". 

BTW, I'm not defaming, I'm repeating what I have been led to believe are facts. And actually what I'm doing is repeating what TC has insinuated.  I didn't call those guys any of those things, I showed how TC liked to spin illnesses to work his way.

I call bulls***.  Show me where Crean said these things or even intimated these things about Amo and Bell.  I follow Marquette hoops and these boards as much as anybody, and I never saw anything remotely close to this on a public board coming from Crean.  You read these things as message board rumors, not as statements from Crean.  This is purely low class BS. 

I'm not a big Amo or Brandon Bell fan, but these kids don't deserve this.

[The Lens]

So if I saw those assertions on a "premium" board is it different than a "public" board?

Vike, your boy TC epitimized "low class BS", sorry that you have to now see his dirty laundry.

BTW, how's Dominic James' horrible family financial situation?  He should be off to Europle anyday now right?  Isn't that what we heard all season?  Chalk up another defamation rumor started by the TC propaganda machine.

[MUViking]

So if I saw those assertions on a "premium" board is it different than a "public" board?

Vike, your boy TC epitimized "low class BS", sorry that you have to now see his dirty laundry.

BTW, how's Dominic James' horrible family financial situation?  He should be off to Europle anyday now right?  Isn't that what we heard all season?  Chalk up another defamation rumor started by the TC propaganda machine.

Sorry, bud.  I read the premium board.  The things you assert, particularly about Brandon Bell, were never on there.  If someone had posted them, they would have been taken down, as your BS post should have been taken down.

Crean is not "my boy."  He wasn't "my boy" beginning April 1st of this year.  He stabbed all of us in the back.  You are putting harmful rumors out there and that is inappropriate.  Knock it off.

I'm not going to go into any detail about Dominic's family or personal situation other than to say that Dominic's plan was to go pro after this season.  It didn't work out, and he wisely decided to come back and finish his career and get his degree.  Dominic has shown a great deal of class and maturity, particularly over the past month.  With some continued hard work and dedication, he has a chance to chase his dream next year.  I hope he can make it, as he is a first rate kid.  Recruiting Dominic is certainly one thing Crean got right...

[bananahammock]

how about mbakwe's home sickness?  did that disappear when TC left?  my guess, more TC spin he was throwing at rosiak to cover his a$$ after another transfer!

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

It didn't work out, and he wisely decided to come back and finish his career and get his degree. 

He's getting his degree two weeks from tomorrow, along with a couple of his classmates. Surely someone as in-depth as you knows this, right?

[HarveysWallbangers]

I call bulls***.  Show me where Crean said these things or even intimated these things about Amo and Bell.  I follow Marquette hoops and these boards as much as anybody, and I never saw anything remotely close to this on a public board coming from Crean.  You read these things as message board rumors, not as statements from Crean.  This is purely low class BS. 

I'm not a big Amo or Brandon Bell fan, but these kids don't deserve this.

Crean definitely cited Amoroso by name as a reason that we lost to Alabama. Forget about message boards, that was in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

[MUinOH]

The things you assert, particularly about Brandon Bell, were never on there.  If someone had posted them, they would have been taken down,

So, how do you know they weren't on there for awhile and then taken down?  Unless you're on there 24/7 (or you're the moderator), you don't.

[MUViking]

So, how do you know they weren't on there for awhile and then taken down?  Unless you're on there 24/7 (or you're the moderator), you don't.

I'm on there 24/7.   

[MUViking]

Crean definitely cited Amoroso by name as a reason that we lost to Alabama. Forget about message boards, that was in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

Did Crean publicly say Amo had ADD or a gambling addiction? 

I didn't really appreciate Crean's public comments re: Amo, but this specific stuff has gone over the line.  It's a hell of a lot different saying that Amo was a reason we lost to Alabama (don't remember that he said that specifically, but I'll take your word for it) and to point out problems like these.

[Marquette84]

Crean definitely cited Amoroso by name as a reason that we lost to Alabama. Forget about message boards, that was in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

Here are the post game stories at the J/S:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=408644
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=408796
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=408771
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=408763

Perhaps you can read these and tell me which is the one where Crean blamed Amoroso.

[The Lens]

84, you're wookin' Pa Nub in all da wong paces...He said it in March of 2007.  Something along the lines of we don't have the Amoroso distraction this year or last year we had the Amoroso distraction...they just had that pesky Michigan State D distraction...300 Sets, 8 Opening Minutes, Zero Points.

[HarveysWallbangers]

I did a quick search on MUScoop because I remember people discussing this before. I couldn't find a link, but here's a direct quote:

McNeal's injury aside, Crean said he feels like this year's team is much better equipped heading into the NCAAs.

"We had distractions last year with Ryan Amoroso's attitude and that set us back," he said. "We've got such a great group of guys. We'll deal with the injury situation, hopefully do everything we can do to get him back and be totally excited."

Is that enough?

[MUViking]

I did a quick search on MUScoop because I remember people discussing this before. I couldn't find a link, but here's a direct quote:

McNeal's injury aside, Crean said he feels like this year's team is much better equipped heading into the NCAAs.

"We had distractions last year with Ryan Amoroso's attitude and that set us back," he said. "We've got such a great group of guys. We'll deal with the injury situation, hopefully do everything we can do to get him back and be totally excited."

Is that enough?

Again, Harvey.... "distractions last year with Ryan Amoroso's attitude.."  and now we're comparing that to "ADD and gambling addiction."  Two very different things. 

I repeat... I didn't like it when Crean said these things, but this is taking it to a whole different level.

[🏀]

Has anyone watched the Wade DVD where Crean would go to the end of the bench when the team was losing, and tell DWade that the loss is all his fault? This was when Wade was ineligible...classy.

[Coach Norman Dale]

84, you're wookin' Pa Nub in all da wong paces

Otay!!!!  I feel like I found a ruby in a mountain of rock and/or a Coupe De Ville hiding at the bottom of a Cracker Jack box -- a joke amidst all the gnashing of teeth, wringing of hands and general bitchin' and moaning that has dominated this board over the last 4 weeks or so! 

[mviale]

Think Crean pressured Mbakwe to come back early?

[The Lens]

I thought Mbakwe's 85% comment was telling.

[mviale]

The Holman response to Crean - makes you wonder about How Crean may have handled a Homesick Mbakwe coming into his office in Feb 08.  What have you done for me?