Crean interview on Dan Patrick - some tough questions, some bad answers

[mwbauer7]

Patrick was definitely kidding with the "because I don't even know where Marquette is" line -- the way I heard it, the line was a shot he took at Crean for minimizing MU. 

As was the line about "now you're coaching at a major program" in my eyes.

[Warrior Forever]

I am tired.

Tired of Crean, tired of the banter.  Thanks for the service, Tom.  But you have moved on and so have we.  Let's take a page out of our players books and focus on the future.  Here's hoping our next coach can take us even higher.

Go Warriors.

[TJ]

TJ,

The reason I asked how Crean's wife and kids feel is that Joanie seemed to enjoy their life in Milwaukee and from every report on here she was very nice to talk to and got involved in the community. She's used to it as a coach's daughter, but my guess is she is sad to leave her friends behind. Plus, his oldest daughter is 12 - a tough age to have to move. His son is friends with all the MU players.

Like I said, at some point he is going to realize his exit was pretty bad. Unfortunately, there may be no mending unless he does something to reach out, and it already probably too late for that.

Wow - I didn't know that his kids were that old.  12 sucks for moving.  I'm sure they'll be fine, but I really thought that they were all under 10.  His son will be friends with all the IU players soon enough, so I think he'll be fine.

[4everwarriors]

Who gives a rat's ass? He's been talking out of both sides of his mouth for years. A leopard doesn't change his spots. Forget about that overpaid, egotististical, used car salesman. And, I'm sorry if I've offended any used car salesmen out there.

[Thomas' Danish Delight]

On a lighter note...if Tom Crean will show up in a Tae Kwon Do uniform on an ATV, I don't see it beyond him to wear a checkered flannel.

[jaybilaswho?]

what a jackass.  i really wish DP would have called him on his bullsh*t. Crean there is nothing here to pick up from other than hatred for you. I think Crean just likes to hear himself talk.

I like what he was saying at the beginning about the length of his contract, how he wants people to know that he will be there. I only wish DP would have mentioned the contract extension, didnt that make people think that you were going to be here?

he cares for our players?!?! my ass.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

on a totally unrelated note...OMG SAL'S PEPPERONI STUFFED PIZZA IS DELICIOUS!

Is it from New York City?

[Pardner]

"I'd been there longer than anyone since Al McGuire had been there"

So is this the new revisionist history on the theory of the TC evolution?  He was at MU longer than Hank Raymonds?  Rick Majerus?  Wow.  Throw in Teri Mitchell too while you are at it, TC.
-The World According to Chairman Crimson

[Frozen Caveman Coach]

Who gives a rat's ass? He's been talking out of both sides of his mouth for years. A leopard doesn't change his spots. Forget about that overpaid, egotististical, used car salesman. And, I'm sorry if I've offended any used car salesmen out there.

Amen!  The people looking the most foolish out of this are those that didn't see this sooner.  If you worshiped him and thought he alone was responsible for all things good about Marq then, you look more pathetic now condemning the man.  He took a better job for more money and prior to that was a PR master with better than average coaching skills.  He is a tireless worker, but somehow, I just don't think coaching is his calling.  Considering this, he got an incredible deal from IU.

Marq stepped up to the plate the minute he took over in '99 and quite frankly, I don't think he took advantage of all it had to offer when recruiting for someone considered so charming.  His floor coaching including his offensive and defensive philosophies have always been easy to question.  His crunch time decision making, too, which I think has something to do with the fact he never played at even the HS level.  All along, I will never understand while people weren't more objective when he was the coach??  Many of you also acted like getting good recruits to come her was like recruiting in Siberia.  He was great in many of your eyes and when he wasn't there was always an excuse or reminder of the Final 4 and DWade.  

I also never expected the venom being directed at him now.  Maybe it is just the msg board fanaticism that is a large part of our society?  In any event, hopefully it is just the intense love for your team that makes you so blind.  Some of us prefer to have a little objectivity.

[mufan924]

coward...third option coward at that, but he got paid, and it's Indiana!

[mugrad99]

was it to ask about the IU job, or was it to see how long Izzo would be staying at Crean's dream job

[Thomas' Danish Delight]

on a totally unrelated note...OMG SAL'S PEPPERONI STUFFED PIZZA IS DELICIOUS!

Is it from New York City?

I think it's the same people, but I got mine from 2040 Lofts on Wisconsin Ave, Milwaukee

[ChicosBailBonds]

Who gives a rat's ass? He's been talking out of both sides of his mouth for years. A leopard doesn't change his spots. Forget about that overpaid, egotististical, used car salesman. And, I'm sorry if I've offended any used car salesmen out there.

Amen!  The people looking the most foolish out of this are those that didn't see this sooner.  If you worshiped him and thought he alone was responsible for all things good about Marq then, you look more pathetic now condemning the man.  He took a better job for more money and prior to that was a PR master with better than average coaching skills.  He is a tireless worker, but somehow, I just don't think coaching is his calling.  Considering this, he got an incredible deal from IU.

Marq stepped up to the plate the minute he took over in '99 and quite frankly, I don't think he took advantage of all it had to offer when recruiting for someone considered so charming.  His floor coaching including his offensive and defensive philosophies have always been easy to question.  His crunch time decision making, too, which I think has something to do with the fact he never played at even the HS level.  All along, I will never understand while people weren't more objective when he was the coach??  Many of you also acted like getting good recruits to come her was like recruiting in Siberia.  He was great in many of your eyes and when he wasn't there was always an excuse or reminder of the Final 4 and DWade.  

I also never expected the venom being directed at him now.  Maybe it is just the msg board fanaticism that is a large part of our society?  In any event, hopefully it is just the intense love for your team that makes you so blind.  Some of us prefer to have a little objectivity.

LOL


No, the people that were behind him enjoyed winning and having MU relevant again for the first time in 3 decades.  I think most people knew he was a prick, but he wasn't cheating and he was winning so people will put up with a lot easier.   If we was cheating and winning, his prickness would have killed him a long time ago.

[mosarsour]

Thanks for reposting for me. Crean came off as I expected and arrogant d-bag. Did we really expect anything less? Aside from 4ever, PRN, and a few others, we were all duped by this SOB. We were all suckers for believing the hype when in reality all he REALLY gave us was 1 magical year and a move to a bigger conference. That's it....Oh yeah, and that million or whatever to the soccer team.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Thanks for reposting for me. Crean came off as I expected and arrogant d-bag. Did we really expect anything less? Aside from 4ever, PRN, and a few others, we were all duped by this SOB. We were all suckers for believing the hype when in reality all he REALLY gave us was 1 magical year and a move to a bigger conference. That's it....Oh yeah, and that million or whatever to the soccer team.

Wow....well here's what he brought to me as a fan 2000 miles away that I didn't see at all in the 15 years prior

Three straight NCAA appearances for the first time since 1980
A Final Four
3 NBA players in 4 years
31 Big East wins in 3 years (we couldn't get 31 MCC wins in 4 years back in the day)
8 post season bids in 9 years
0 NCAA violations
3 25 win seasons (only McGuire had more...no other MU coach had even one)
A TON of wins over coaches named Ryan, Pitino, Huggins, Calhoun, Dixon, Howland, Gillespie, Wright, Brey, Bartow, Prosser, etc.
A TON of wins over schools named Duke, UCONN, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Wake Forest, Kentucky, Cincinnati, Indiana, Gonzaga, Oklahoma State, Pitt, Louisville, DePaul, Memphis, Dayton, Tennessee
89% graduation rate
Travis Diener, Steve Novak, Dwyane Wade, Trey Schwab, DJ, McNeal, etc



Now he is an ass for what he did this last week, but some of you are really throwing the baby out with the bath water.  To suggest all he did was tow things....that is not accurate and just looks like whining.

He's gone but there was a lot to cheer about in the last 9 years, a heckuva a lot more then there was the previous 9 years or the previous 9 to that some might argue.

[Tampa Warrior]

Now he is an ass for what he did this last week, but some of you are really throwing the baby out with the bath water.  To suggest all he did was that is not accurate and just looks like whining.

Yeah, I agree. But I do understand people reacting emotionally and not seeing the bigger picture at the moment.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Whining? What do you call what you've been doing for the past 2 days? You are clearly practically grief stricken over the departure of a guy you called impossible to work for, among other things

[ChicosBailBonds]

Whining? What do you call what you've been doing for the past 2 days? You are clearly practically grief stricken over the departure of a guy you called impossible to work for, among other things

Grief stricken abuot Crean....give me a break PRN.  The guy is gone....I'm fine with it.  I've called him a douche, a dick, a dink and a jerk...how is that grief stricken about Crean?  Sigh.  What I'm grief stricken about and you can't get through your thick head still...STILL....is that MU has been kicking ass the last 5 or 6 years on a national stage....thats' what I"M GRIEF STRICKEN ABOUT.  Hire a coach that will CONTINUE THAT, and I'll be pleased as punch.  Hire one that DOESN'T CONTINUE THAT...and yeah, that would make me grief stricken.  I know you disagree and think the last 5 years anybody with a whistle and a CYO background could do, but I'm not quite as convinced as you...of course I didn't allow any feelings of good or ill will toward the man cloud the facts of wins, losses, etc like you did.  Should be easy to get a replacement according to you, tons of guys waiting in the wings.

But you now what, this process sure is exciting and fun...I can feel it.   

[Tampa Warrior]

Hiring of this nature is never easy...and IU may come to regret their hire.

I respect and appreciate what TC did for our program. But I don't for a minute think that we cannot replace him with someone at least as good. There are no givens, however, and a bad mistake could set us back a bit. And that mistake could be hiring someone that most people currently agree would be a "great choice." We just won't know for awhile.