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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 31, 2025, 03:12:07 PMOk Brew.  I guess we'll have to wait until March 2026 because this difference of opinions won't be settled today. I know what I've seen and there's data backing my opinion too. It's far from a lock he'll become this double digit per game weapon. But if he does, fantastic.  It will likely mean more team success overall.

In the meantime, agree to disagree.  I didn't expect my original post would generate such vehement disagreement. I didn't think it was all that bold of a projection. 


Again, I don't think anyone is expecting him to be a scoring "weapon".

Stevie averaged 10.7 PPG last season on a team with Kam, Jop, and Chase. Was he a scoring "weapon"? 

Kam and Jop are gone. So it's just odd not to think there's a solid to good chance Sean will average low double figures based on team composition and expected usage, assuming he's healthy.


DoctorV

I'm just glad that Sean stuck around to tackle Nigel in the 1 role battle for the season.

Partly joking, from rumors

That said, I love Sean Jones. He quickly became one of my favorites. I also said that Zaide would be a fan favorite when I saw what he would bring.
However, favorites aren't what runs the show. I think Nigel will be the real deal and the 1 spot will be in great hands with SJ22 and Nigel, going about 25 and 15mpg a piece for the season as a whole, give or take.

Can't wait to see them in the same backcourt at the same time, Ala Markus and Rowsey.

All things considered though, Shaka's got his work cut out for him in keeping those two happy if the talent plays out as it should.

As for Parhams usage, make some shots young man

MU82

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 30, 2025, 08:47:05 PMI guess you've never heard of Justin Lewis?

That was terrible when he increased his average by 9 PPG from his freshman to sophomore year. 

Or Markus. Or Sam. Or the second year at Marquette for JFB and TK.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on June 01, 2025, 12:03:58 AMOr Markus. Or Sam. Or the second year at Marquette for JFB and TK.

I don't think that's true.  Players historically don't get better while they're in college
"Well, we're all going to die."

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 01, 2025, 08:05:29 AMI don't think that's true.  Players historically don't get better while they're in college

As Al famously said, "The best thing about freshmen is that I get to recruit over them if they suck."
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Jay Bee

When Tre starts at PG day one, will scoop implode?
The portal is NOT closed.

WarriorFan

The only guy on the team with the attitude of a leading scorer is Parham.  He's confident shooting from anywhere, and with the shot clock running down, I'd rather it's in his hands than anyone else. (due to his size and confidence)

That being said, he will probably only average 11-12, same as Chase.
Sean Jones will be around 10.  Gold and the rest will follow.
The problem with this team will be that there's really no "go to" scorer.
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

Nukem2

Quote from: WarriorFan on June 01, 2025, 12:23:35 PMThe only guy on the team with the attitude of a leading scorer is Parham.  He's confident shooting from anywhere, and with the shot clock running down, I'd rather it's in his hands than anyone else. (due to his size and confidence)

That being said, he will probably only average 11-12, same as Chase.
Sean Jones will be around 10.  Gold and the rest will follow.
The problem with this team will be that there's really no "go to" scorer.
Still like Royce for that. A healthy Owens might surprise as he certainly can hunt shots as well.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Jay Bee on June 01, 2025, 10:56:36 AMWhen Tre starts at PG day one, will scoop implode?

You see this happening JB?  I don't but willing to listen to a compelling argument. 

tower912

I have thought it possible all along.  Sometimes, size matters.   And Tre has also had a number of injuries that he played through.   I am not saying Tre WILL start.  I can see scenarios where he COULD start.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jockey

Quote from: tower912 on June 01, 2025, 06:04:37 PMI have thought it possible all along.  Sometimes, size matters.   And Tre has also had a number of injuries that he played through.   I am not saying Tre WILL start.  I can see scenarios where he COULD start.

The only reason I think it could happen is if James isn't ready to give us minutes. If James earns minutes (and we're pretty sure Sean will play a lot), I don't see any way Shaka is gonna want to have to sub-6 footers on the floor together.

But, practices will decide the issue.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: tower912 on June 01, 2025, 06:04:37 PMI have thought it possible all along.  Sometimes, size matters.   And Tre has also had a number of injuries that he played through.   I am not saying Tre WILL start.  I can see scenarios where he COULD start.

I may be giving up on him to soon.  If he is a productive offensive player this year I will be pleasantly surprised and it will be great for the team.  Love his size and his defense. 

tower912

What will be interesting this season is that for the first time there will be open spots and competition for starting positions.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Big Papi

Quote from: Nukem2 on June 01, 2025, 01:35:00 PMStill like Royce for that. A healthy Owens might surprise as he certainly can hunt shots as well.

I'm not sold on Royce taking that leap next year. His shot selection was awful.  Definitely hasn't seen a shot he doesn't like. If he doesn't figure that out, the leash will be short.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Big Papi on June 01, 2025, 06:49:25 PMI'm not sold on Royce taking that leap next year. His shot selection was awful.  Definitely hasn't seen a shot he doesn't like. If he doesn't figure that out, the leash will be short.

Royce will not have a short leash.

tower912

Other than Caedin, who had a short leash last season? 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuMark

Quote from: Jay Bee on June 01, 2025, 10:56:36 AMWhen Tre starts at PG day one, will scoop implode?

If Tre starts I will assume it's because he is playing well......not that everyone else is so bad they can't beat out a guy who sucks.




tower912

Quote from: MuMark on June 01, 2025, 07:33:05 PMIf Tre starts I will assume it's because he is playing well......not that everyone else is so bad they can't beat out a guy who sucks.

Trusting the coach's judgment?!?!?!  We will have none of that around here.  Harumph.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Big Papi

Quote from: tower912 on June 01, 2025, 07:19:20 PMOther than Caedin, who had a short leash last season? 

Tre, Zaide, Royce, Owens, Caedin all had short leashes from time to time throughout the season.

Big Papi

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 01, 2025, 07:16:17 PMRoyce will not have a short leash.

Well lets hope that his shot selection improves along with his game.  3 starters gone so lots of minutes available.  I think it is all a work in progress.

BM1090

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on May 30, 2025, 07:07:01 PMChase.  He's going to have a Wes like senior season with his shooting hand healthy now.

Only if he learns to go right.

BM1090

Quote from: 79Warrior on May 31, 2025, 02:14:49 PMPretty confident you will be wrong. He has worked his ass off and will be a significant factor for us this season. Staff very high on him. Prepare to be surprised.

The staff at Ohio State?

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