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DoctorV

You can be a future hall of fame coach, but today you were asleep at the wheel.

Everyone gets a mulligan.

Let's continue that home win streak, please.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: DoctorV on January 06, 2024, 01:13:07 PM
You can be a future hall of fame coach, but today you were asleep at the wheel.

Everyone gets a mulligan.

Let's continue that home win streak, please.

Lol how?
VIOLENCE!

DoctorV


tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: DoctorV on January 06, 2024, 01:19:14 PM
Too many ways to count today. I'll let others tell you

No. Man the phuck up and tell me yourself.
VIOLENCE!

BM1090

Quote from: tower912 on January 06, 2024, 01:19:40 PM
Nah, you start.

Sean came in about 2 minutes too late at the end. Not a coincidence that he came in and SHU guards immediately got rattled and we ripped off a 7-0.

He was our best player today. I know he had four fouls but they needed him out there to have a shot.

Love Shaka. Wouldn't trade him for anyone. But he didn't have a great day today.

Neither did Kam or Tyler. It happens.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: tower912 on January 06, 2024, 01:19:40 PM
Nah, you start.

Calling the TO at the end. Didnt like it. Should have let them play. A set play with that much time is tough. I think they'd get a better look coming from a trailer
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

StillWarriors


Kam was alone trailing right behind Kolek. He's been shooting awful but I would still take that look all day.

tower912

Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 06, 2024, 01:22:11 PM
Calling the TO at the end. Didnt like it. Should have let them play. A set play with that much time is tough. I think they'd get a better look coming from a trailer
Kolek was dribbling toward the corner with his head down and no help.   Call the TO.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

NolongerWarriors

Quote from: StillWarriors on January 06, 2024, 01:23:53 PM
Kam was alone trailing right behind Kolek. He's been shooting awful but I would still take that look all day.

Kam would have at least got off a Caitlin Clark type final shot, which is a heck of a lot better than struggling to even inbound the ball.

Tyler COLEk

Any suggestion that Shaka's MU teams are not good on inbounds plays is pretty strong evidence of not knowing the game.

re: Sean: Shaka was very aggressive with his PT after the fourth foul. Not really sure how you could complain about that.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Tyler COLEk on January 06, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
Any suggestion that Shaka's MU teams are not good on inbounds plays is pretty strong evidence of not knowing the game.

re: Sean: Shaka was very aggressive with his PT after the fourth foul. Not really sure how you could complain about that.

To be clear, I didn't assert they aren't good at inbounds. I said that I thought playing free was a better option than an out of bounds play in my opinion
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

BM1090

Quote from: Tyler COLEk on January 06, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
Any suggestion that Shaka's MU teams are not good on inbounds plays is pretty strong evidence of not knowing the game.

re: Sean: Shaka was very aggressive with his PT after the fourth foul. Not really sure how you could complain about that.

Not necessarily complaining. I understand why he wasn't out there. But they played him around the ten minute mark. Immediately want on a run. Sat for about 5 mins and came back in down. Immediately went on a run.

I think the play there was to keep him in and if he fouls out he fouls out. Because it was clear watching that they'd lose without him.

Shaka basically fouled him out himself by benching him.

tower912

Reserve guard picks up 4th foul.  Sits.  Clearly Shaka's fault going with starters.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

DoctorV

Quote from: tower912 on January 06, 2024, 02:38:41 PM
Reserve guard picks up 4th foul.  Sits.  Clearly Shaka's fault going with starters.

He already had the 4th foul. He was a difference maker late in the game and sat at a terrible time.

If you go offense/defense on subs I'm fine with it, but to sit him for 3/4 mins at that time is brutal.

He came back in and was an instant spark again when Marquette was about to lose by double digits.

Anyway, I don't want to comment on the shortcomings today because I'm heated in the moment and don't want to over-react, but the mistakes were there and I'll comment on them tomorrow.

NCMUFan

Down three with 6.5 seconds left. 
I can understand Shaka wanting his starters on the floor.  But now you only have 3 of 5 players with decent three pt shooting ability.  Having Oso and Stevie on the floor cut down options.  I would have had Sean and Ben.  Now you have 5 options.  Would rather have those odds.

DoctorV

Quote from: NCMUFan on January 06, 2024, 03:43:24 PM
Down three with 6.5 seconds left. 
I can understand Shaka wanting his starters on the floor.  But now you only have 3 of 5 players with decent three pt shooting ability.  Having Oso and Stevie on the floor cut down options.  I would have had Sean and Ben.  Now you have 5 options.  Would rather have those odds.

Yea having Sean and Ben sitting in that moment was absurd on its own.

I moreso meant taking him out for a large stretch before that but that alone was pretty bad

The Sultan

Eh. Shaka did fine. Lots of Monday morning quarterbacking here. They missed a lot of open shots.
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tower912

Give me the starters.    Steve went to the baseline.    Neither Kam nor Joplin got open.   After Oso got the ball, it was pretty clear that Joplin and Kam were supposed to re-cut with Tyler trailing.    Gold was
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

NCMUFan

Quote from: tower912 on January 06, 2024, 04:30:46 PM
Give me the starters.    Steve went to the baseline.    Neither Kam nor Joplin got open.   After Oso got the ball, it was pretty clear that Joplin and Kam were supposed to re-cut with Tyler trailing.    Gold was
= failure.

tower912

And?  Does every last minute play work?  Every bespoke in bounds play?    They got the in-bounds to the third option, the best passing big man in the country.   He and Joplin weren't on the same page. 
    Because the execution was off does not mean it wasn't a sound concept.   It could have been run perfectly and the shot missed.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

CountryRoads

Quote from: tower912 on January 06, 2024, 07:03:03 PM
And?  Does every last minute play work?  Every bespoke in bounds play?    They got the in-bounds to the third option, the best passing big man in the country.   He and Joplin weren't on the same page. 
    Because the execution was off does not mean it wasn't a sound concept.   It could have been run perfectly and the shot missed.

Think it's a bad decision to call timeout down 3 with the ball with that little time. Good chance the defense won't have the IQ to foul on the fly. The inbounds play was a long shot. Oso rushed the pass because he would have been fouled immediately anyway. Joplin likely doesn't even get a shot off if the pass succeeded. Doomed from the start.

panda

Quote from: CountryRoads on January 06, 2024, 07:33:34 PM
Think it's a bad decision to call timeout down 3 with the ball with that little time. Good chance the defense won't have the IQ to foul on the fly. The inbounds play was a long shot. Oso rushed the pass because he would have been fouled immediately anyway. Joplin likely doesn't even get a shot off if the pass succeeded. Doomed from the start.

It's definitely a coaching preference but I personally don't like calling a TO in that situation.

The helter skelter nature heavily favors the offense and it's a situation where you can practice a ton and perfect. Call a timeout and the advantage swings back towards even, rather than favoring the team with the ball.


JakeBarnes

Quote from: panda on January 06, 2024, 07:42:36 PM
It's definitely a coaching preference but I personally don't like calling a TO in that situation.

The helter skelter nature heavily favors the offense and it's a situation where you can practice a ton and perfect. Call a timeout and the advantage swings back towards even, rather than favoring the team with the ball.

100% why it frustrated me that they did.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

panda

Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 06, 2024, 08:03:34 PM
100% why it frustrated me that they did.

If the timeout is awarded in front of the bench which is where ball handlers are instructed to bring it before a TO, that inbound spot is really, really difficult to get anything going in a short amount of time. You can really only safely inbound the ball to the top of the key or backcourt (not enough time to go back that far).

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