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Is it time for Wojo to be removed?

Yes
109 (66.9%)
No
46 (28.2%)
Wait a minute, he's only had six years!
8 (4.9%)

Total Members Voted: 163

Voting closed: March 06, 2020, 10:01:35 PM

MUL98

I'm a long time lurker , with a substantial history of Marquette fandom. I'm an alum and my kid is too. I've never been a season ticket holder, but until a few years ago was the kind of fan who attended about half of the MU home games.

I questioned the Wojo hiring pretty early, mostly because I saw a lack of in game coaching ability that really worried me. In year three I decided that maybe I'd been unfair, and I tried to take a step back and give the guy a chance. After the shellacking we took at the hands of SC in the tournament that year, I pretty quickly inched back in the other direction. I told myself I wouldn't get sucked back in to a WoJo coached team in a meaningful way, because the aggravation was hard to take. I decided to be a casual fan and hope he proves me wrong. I followed the team from afar, and didn't spend any money of tickets from that point forward. As they climbed in the ranks last year I thought "maybe all those people who said give him time were right," and I let myself get sucked back in for a while. Last year's collapse really cemeted by indiffierence to the program under this coach though.  So much so that when the Hausers left I had very little reaction to it. I checked out pretty much completely.

I continued to follow the team only by seeing scores after the fact. I stayed away from message boards and the MU fandom that had driven my winter sports experience in the past. Recently my curiosity got he best of me  though and I started to do a little lurking here again. After seeing the score this morning I came back to see where the die hard consensus was. It looks like it's drifting steadily away from WoJo.

Some people here will call me a "fair weather," or "band wagon," or "bad," fan. And they may be right. I wasn't able to take the aggravation that Marquette basketball was causing in my life so I checked out. If that's bad fandom, I plead guilty. But at this point it seems like the program is a mess. I know  some people  point toward a slow incremental overall positive movement, but really the question everyone needs to answer for themselves is whether it's enough given how long WoJo has been in charge. Personally I'm not satisfied with just making the tournament.

I have no idea if the powers that be will move on from WoJo, but they should be worried about the indifference of fans like me. I think more die hards will become casual fans or less if they don't do something to get this moving in the right direction. Six years is a long time for this kind of performance. And it seems to me there are no quick fixes right now. Personally I don't see how sticking with the coach who got the program to this point makers sense, but clearly opinions vary.

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: MUL98 on March 04, 2020, 08:28:57 AM
I have no idea if the powers that be will move on from WoJo, but they should be worried about the indifference of fans like me.

+1.  I had season tickets for 19 years and dropped them this season.

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: MUL98 on March 04, 2020, 08:28:57 AM
I'm a long time lurker , with a substantial history of Marquette fandom. I'm an alum and my kid is too. I've never been a season ticket holder, but until a few years ago was the kind of fan who attended about half of the MU home games.

I questioned the Wojo hiring pretty early, mostly because I saw a lack of in game coaching ability that really worried me. In year three I decided that maybe I'd been unfair, and I tried to take a step back and give the guy a chance. After the shellacking we took at the hands of SC in the tournament that year, I pretty quickly inched back in the other direction. I told myself I wouldn't get sucked back in to a WoJo coached team in a meaningful way, because the aggravation was hard to take. I decided to be a casual fan and hope he proves me wrong. I followed the team from afar, and didn't spend any money of tickets from that point forward. As they climbed in the ranks last year I thought "maybe all those people who said give him time were right," and I let myself get sucked back in for a while. Last year's collapse really cemeted by indiffierence to the program under this coach though.  So much so that when the Hausers left I had very little reaction to it. I checked out pretty much completely.

I continued to follow the team only by seeing scores after the fact. I stayed away from message boards and the MU fandom that had driven my winter sports experience in the past. Recently my curiosity got he best of me  though and I started to do a little lurking here again. After seeing the score this morning I came back to see where the die hard consensus was. It looks like it's drifting steadily away from WoJo.

Some people here will call me a "fair weather," or "band wagon," or "bad," fan. And they may be right. I wasn't able to take the aggravation that Marquette basketball was causing in my life so I checked out. If that's bad fandom, I plead guilty. But at this point it seems like the program is a mess. I know  some people  point toward a slow incremental overall positive movement, but really the question everyone needs to answer for themselves is whether it's enough given how long WoJo has been in charge. Personally I'm not satisfied with just making the tournament.

I have no idea if the powers that be will move on from WoJo, but they should be worried about the indifference of fans like me. I think more die hards will become casual fans or less if they don't do something to get this moving in the right direction. Six years is a long time for this kind of performance. And it seems to me there are no quick fixes right now. Personally I don't see how sticking with the coach who got the program to this point makers sense, but clearly opinions vary.

The higher ups should be worried.  You have an arena that's essentially 2,000 seats smaller, yet you have to continually put MU seat covers out in the student section.  The energy isn't there anymore and it's dwindling.  Once you lose the students who create the atmosphere, the next domino to fall is the season ticket holders who line the pockets.   This is a failing product that's going into a mini rebuild next year.   Most don't know how much Howard will be missed.

Litehouse

Last night really sucked.  That being said, if we win at SJU, beat DePaul in the 7/10 game, and win an NCAA game, I'm OK sticking with Wojo.  If we lose out, I'm done.

Eldon

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 04, 2020, 08:56:14 AM
The higher ups should be worried.  You have an arena that's essentially 2,000 seats smaller, yet you have to continually put MU seat covers out in the student section.  The energy isn't there anymore and it's dwindling.  Once you lose the students who create the atmosphere, the next domino to fall is the season ticket holders who line the pockets.   This is a failing product that's going into a mini rebuild next year.   Most don't know how much Howard will be missed.

And these students become future alums.  Alums donate. 

You want to give your students the best of time at MU so that when they are mid-career, they reflect upon their time at Marquette fondly.

Warrior2008

Quote from: Litehouse on March 04, 2020, 08:59:23 AM
Last night really sucked.  That being said, if we win at SJU, beat DePaul in the 7/10 game, and win an NCAA game, I'm OK sticking with Wojo.  If we lose out, I'm done.

This is about where I'm at.  To me, there is plenty of opportunity to redeem themselves.  I'll be honest that I'm not very optimistic, but its not like they don't have chances in front of them.

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