Markus and the FCA

[Billy Hoyle]

Proving my point.  Please, educate us all about why you think the treatment given this topic is not worthy of being criticized. Tell us all why you think our team's top player giving a keynote address at the FCA is deserving of ridicule.

Personally, I am strongly opposed philosophically to FCA, even being a former member. FCA believes consuming alcoholic beverages is a sin and is the sign of an impure lifestyle and makes their leaders sign a pledge acknowledging that they will abstain from alcohol consumption for life.  In their eyes, I sin almost daily.

[MU82]

Hopefully the atheists aren't pissed off.

I can't speak for all atheists.

This atheist admires any person who tries to make a positive contribution to society.

This atheist has less admiration for those who look down upon any group and who use chicken-shyte, passive-aggressive methods to taunt those who are different than they are.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

100% not true.  There's a reason I took Islam and Hinduism, two different classes, at Marquette...to broaden my education and belief system. In graduate school at the University of Kansas, that continued with additional education in East Asian Languages and Cultures (my Masters Program), which included courses in Buddhism.  My father didn't belong to any religion until he was in his late 50's when he became a Catholic prior to his death. 

Unfortunately you made an absolutely incorrect statement based on no information about me or my beliefs.

Two Wongs don't make a White.

[rocket surgeon]

Personally, I am strongly opposed philosophically to FCA, even being a former member. FCA believes consuming alcoholic beverages is a sin and is the sign of an impure lifestyle and makes their leaders sign a pledge acknowledging that they will abstain from alcohol consumption for life.  In their eyes, I sin almost daily.

why would one sign a pledge to abstain from akahall for life if they may not know they are going to be members of the FCA for life?  hows about one just abstains while they are in the club? if they are still members after say 10 years, hopefully they abided by ALL the things the FCA stipulates to be in good standing; if for life, more of the same

    athletes are sposed to abstain from taking performance enhancing drugs, catholic priests are sposed to pledge abstinence from sex, but we all know how some of that ends...maybe all these "extracurricular rules" are meant to be suggestions, kinda like stop signs, eyn'a??? 

[Cheeks]

I can't speak for all atheists.

This atheist admires any person who tries to make a positive contribution to society.

This atheist has less admiration for those who look down upon any group and who use chicken-shyte, passive-aggressive methods to taunt those who are different than they are.

Does the atheist use former German leader quotes for chicken-shyte approaches to prove their agenda?  How about specific quotes from church leaders?  Only asking, hard to tell....

[MU82]

Does the atheist use former German leader quotes for chicken-shyte approaches to prove their agenda?  How about specific quotes from church leaders?  Only asking, hard to tell....

I can see why you were banned for years ... and surely will be again.

Excellent running from the issue and shifting the goalposts, though. You be you, baby.

[Billy Hoyle]

why would one sign a pledge to abstain from akahall for life if they may not know they are going to be members of the FCA for life?  hows about one just abstains while they are in the club? if they are still members after say 10 years, hopefully they abided by ALL the things the FCA stipulates to be in good standing; if for life, more of the same

    athletes are sposed to abstain from taking performance enhancing drugs, catholic priests are sposed to pledge abstinence from sex, but we all know how some of that ends...maybe all these "extracurricular rules" are meant to be suggestions, kinda like stop signs, eyn'a???

The idea is they will be. Here's one of the questions from the agreement student leaders must sign.

"Have you, or will you at this time commit to living a drug, alcohol and tobacco-free life? ____ Yes ____ No"

[Herman Cain]

Personally, I am strongly opposed philosophically to FCA, even being a former member. FCA believes consuming alcoholic beverages is a sin and is the sign of an impure lifestyle and makes their leaders sign a pledge acknowledging that they will abstain from alcohol consumption for life.  In their eyes, I sin almost daily.

They put some good teams together and the religion in my experiences was very soft sell . Most kids don't even pay attention to what is being said.

[Galway Eagle]

The idea is they will be. Here's one of the questions from the agreement student leaders must sign.

"Have you, or will you at this time commit to living a drug, alcohol and tobacco-free life? ____ Yes ____ No"

For all those pledges it always fascinated me that they don't mention caffeine.

[rocket surgeon]

The idea is they will be. Here's one of the questions from the agreement student leaders must sign.

"Have you, or will you at this time commit to living a drug, alcohol and tobacco-free life? ____ Yes ____ No"

i'm a firm believer in the al mcguire rules for life method- your education isn't complete until ya drive the taxi cab and tend the bar.  for those who have never stepped just a little outside the lines of life-good on ya.  my experiences have been not how high one stands at the moment, but from where they have ascended from that can make the difference

[Galway Eagle]

i'm a firm believer in the al mcguire rules for life method- your education isn't complete until ya drive the taxi cab and tend the bar.  for those who have never stepped just a little outside the lines of life-good on ya.  my experiences have been not how high one stands at the moment, but from where they have ascended from that can make the difference

Drove Uber and was a bouncer. I'm calling it close enough to his education requirement.

But more seriously, the thought process behind the quote of you can be the most educated person in the world but if you only lived in a bubble it's all for nothing is 100% accurate.

[Billy Hoyle]

I can't speak for all atheists.

This atheist admires any person who tries to make a positive contribution to society.

This atheist has less admiration for those who look down upon any group and who use chicken-shyte, passive-aggressive methods to taunt those who are different than they are.

I'm with you.  My wife and I ended a relationship with a couple who were in your face Atheists (the wife even wrote a blog post on why it was important for her to immediately identify herself as Atheist to everyone she meets immediately. WTF?  Even as one myself that was uncomfortable and annoying for me. It's no different than a person of faith who tries to shove their beliefs in your face and belittles others for not sharing their belief system.

[Lennys Tap]

I'm with you.  My wife and I ended a relationship with a couple who were in your face Atheists (the wife even wrote a blog post on why it was important for her to immediately identify herself as Atheist to everyone she meets immediately. WTF?  Even as one myself that was uncomfortable and annoying for me. It's no different than a person of faith who tries to shove their beliefs in your face and belittles others for not sharing their belief system.

In your face anything is a bad look.

[Billy Hoyle]

In your face anything is a bad look.

Yep. We all have a reason for developing our likes, our beliefs, our faith system, etc. Don't try and tell me I'm wrong, especially when it comes to drinking alcohol and eating meat! 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

In your face anything is a bad look.

There's a that's what she said joke in here somewhere....

[THRILLHO]

I'm with you.  My wife and I ended a relationship with a couple who were in your face Atheists (the wife even wrote a blog post on why it was important for her to immediately identify herself as Atheist to everyone she meets immediately. WTF?  Even as one myself that was uncomfortable and annoying for me. It's no different than a person of faith who tries to shove their beliefs in your face and belittles others for not sharing their belief system.

It's your right to not like people who get in your face with their beliefs, but did you have to be so in your face about it?

[Billy Hoyle]

It's your right to not like people who get in your face with their beliefs, but did you have to be so in your face about it?

We said nothing to them, we just "ghosted" them.

[tower912]

What about the green bean casserole?

[Lennys Tap]

What about the green bean casserole?

Desperately wanted a little taste - all gone when I went through the line!

[Pakuni]

In your face anything is a bad look.

Even Poochie?

[Lennys Tap]

Even Poochie?

lol - exceptions to every rule.