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MU82

Thankfully, the full NCAA council rejected this ridiculous proposal, so it's status quo for the grad transfer rule -- until some other self-serving administrator proposes the next attempt to limit one of the very few advantages any student-athlete has.

Surprisingly, the NCAA actually passed a good rule, too, allowing athletes who go to summer school to transfer and be immediately eligible if there is a head-coaching change. It's about time they stopped punishing athletes who actually try to be students.
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Nukem2

Quote from: MU82 on April 20, 2019, 01:34:47 PM
Surprisingly, the NCAA actually passed a good rule, too, allowing athletes who go to summer school to transfer and be immediately eligible if there is a head-coaching change. It's about time they stopped punishing athletes who actually try to be students.
How many head coaches leave during summer school or after summer school prior to the first day of classes.  Players could easily get a waiver anyway.  Look at Brett Roseboro, who was able to get a release, waiver and enroll at St. Bonaventure within a few days even without a head coaching change. 

MU82

Quote from: Nukem2 on April 20, 2019, 01:55:32 PM
How many head coaches leave during summer school or after summer school prior to the first day of classes.  Players could easily get a waiver anyway.  Look at Brett Roseboro, who was able to get a release, waiver and enroll at St. Bonaventure within a few days even without a head coaching change.

Why should they have to get a waiver? It was a good rule change that saves some angst, paperwork and time -- a rarity for the NCAA.
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Nukem2

Quote from: MU82 on April 20, 2019, 03:46:41 PM
Why should they have to get a waiver? It was a good rule change that saves some angst, paperwork and time -- a rarity for the NCAA.
They will probably still have some extra paperwork.  ;)

#UnleashSean

Quote from: dad's couch on April 17, 2019, 06:00:28 PM
Just a flip side. Under current rules a kid doesn't have to attend class or even have a grade to be eligible the 2nd semester since he has already graduated.

For the coaches/schools. They spent 3/4 years developing kids. Those overlooked by the big boys. Build your program and plan for a great year and your two best players leave. This also affects the coaches livelihood. A conference title and NCAA bid to another 3rd place in the conference and unemployed while your star is playing for a coach who didn't even know his name 10 months earlier.

There's a happy middle and I think we all agree the NCAA is not going to be the one to find it.

No. The unpaid players should be able to go wherever whenever.

Porky's Butthole

Interesting Thread!  Porky never quite understood the grad transfer rule, but it's not surprising that very few of the players that take advantage of it actually complete their degrees.

It's never been explained to Porky what the reasoning is behind requiring undergrad players to sit out a year after transferring either.  Not sure what it accomplishes other than allowing a player to acclimate to the new program.  Is the NCAA simply trying to discourage transfers en masse? 

Seems to porky that if transferring players were eligible immediately there would be far less of a need for grad transfers in the first place.  Allow them to contribute immediately but limit their ability to transfer to 1 time in their 4 years of eligibility.  Under the current regulations, you have some kids that have played for 3 schools over an undergrad career.  Seems ridiculous.


Jay Bee

Quote from: Herman Cain on April 17, 2019, 07:03:07 PM
It may be something that varies from conference to conference and school to school but their are many places that will keep funding the kid till they graduate. Have had personal experience with that .

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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Nukem2 on April 20, 2019, 01:55:32 PM
How many head coaches leave during summer school or after summer school prior to the first day of classes.  Players could easily get a waiver anyway.  Look at Brett Roseboro, who was able to get a release, waiver and enroll at St. Bonaventure within a few days even without a head coaching change.

Yeah, but Roseboro was due to Buzz's egregious behavior running him off. A kid like Braxton Beverly, who spurred this proposal, is just a whiny little brat. But, he got Bilas and Goodman involved so the waiver had to be granted for PR purposes.
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