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Next up: Seton Hall

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Date/Time: Dec 30, 2025, 6:00pm
TV: FS1
Schedule for 2025-26
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BCHoopster

Since this year may end in a disaster, who starts next year?

Center - Pearson, the other two potential
         Returnees should transfer

PF.    - Parham

SF.    -So many kids, Phillips or Egbuono

Point. - Nigel

2Guard - Stevens or Walker

Can this team win?

tower912

Do you know who will be on the roster next season?  Do you know if the light switch is going to flip on for anyone who has disappointed you so far?  21 games to go, at a minimum. 
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

ATL MU Warrior

The "All Relationships" team

PG - Sean Jones
SG - Tre Norman
SF - Zaide Lowery
PF - Royce Parham
C - Caedin Hamilton

tower912

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on December 16, 2025, 07:02:49 PMThe "All Relationships" team

PG - Sean Jones
SG - Tre Norman
SF - Zaide Lowery
PF - Royce Parham
C - Caedin Hamilton
It could happen.  Particularly if the portal works against MU.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Johnny B

Wild to think a senior lowery wouldn't be able to earn that 3 spot but who knows anymore. Otherwise I agree. I'm optimistic a year 2 James and Stevens could be a solid back court. Sheek should be an upgrade over Hamilton . Like to believe parham as an upperclassman will be serviceable. Yeah I think that roster is at least slightly better than what we got now.

brewcity77

PG - Nigel James
SG - Dwyane Wade
SF - Nolan Minnessale
PF - Brandon Benjamin
C - Giannis Antetokounmpo

MU82

PG - Incoming transfer
SG - Incoming transfer
SF - Incoming transfer
PF - Incoming transfer
C - Incoming transfer

Then we'll really be ready to kick butt!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

BCHoopster

Quote from: MU82 on December 16, 2025, 07:44:37 PMPG - Incoming transfer
SG - Incoming transfer
SF - Incoming transfer
PF - Incoming transfer
C - Incoming transfer

Then we'll really be ready to kick butt!

Best answer yet!

tower912

That would likely equate to a new coach and a ground up rebuild.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

JTJ3

Ideally, put me down for

Nigel
Stevens
Transfer
Royce
Transfer

Jay Bee

I long for the days when our main gripe was the lack of disgusting hot dogs at a free event.
The portal is NOT closed.

JoanofArcMascot

PG: James
2G: Stevens
SF: Phillips
PF: Parham
C: Pearson
Sixth man: Egbuonu
Seventh man: Walker
Eighth man: Clark
Ninth man: Norman
Tenth man: Johnston
Eleventh man: Lowery

rgoode57

I am extremely reluctant to count on anything from incoming freshmen or redshirt freshmen given recent results. I certainly hope Pearson is a real player, but we all thought the same about Owens. In fact, no one has any idea how these guys are going to do.

NCMUFan

Quote from: MU82 on December 16, 2025, 07:44:37 PMPG - Incoming transfer
SG - Incoming transfer
SF - Incoming transfer
PF - Incoming transfer
C - Incoming transfer

Then we'll really be ready to kick butt!
A MUSCOOP dream.  The possibility of endless chats.

brewcity77

Quote from: rgoode57 on December 17, 2025, 08:09:05 AMI am extremely reluctant to count on anything from incoming freshmen or redshirt freshmen given recent results. I certainly hope Pearson is a real player, but we all thought the same about Owens. In fact, no one has any idea how these guys are going to do.

This is my concern. I want to be optimistic, but the only real hit of Shaka's high school recruiting here has been Chase. Jop & Gold have been fine, but roleplayers as underclassmen and back end starters as upperclassmen isn't a hit, it's just meeting baseline expectations.

So far, Shaka is 1/13 on HS recruits really hitting. And that 1 is leaving in 3 months. Hard to gin up optimism.

MU82

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 17, 2025, 08:49:15 AMSo far, Shaka is 1/13 on HS recruits really hitting. And that 1 is leaving in 3 months. Hard to gin up optimism.

I use numerous Singapore Slings and Negronis to gin up optimism. The only way to watch MU hoops this season!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 17, 2025, 08:49:15 AMThis is my concern. I want to be optimistic, but the only real hit of Shaka's high school recruiting here has been Chase. Jop & Gold have been fine, but roleplayers as underclassmen and back end starters as upperclassmen isn't a hit, it's just meeting baseline expectations.

So far, Shaka is 1/13 on HS recruits really hitting. And that 1 is leaving in 3 months. Hard to gin up optimism.

Goose used to post that he loved the team with Kolek, Oso, Stevie, Kam, etc. but as excited as he was about those teams it would get even better when Shaka recruited "his guys" into "his system".  I bought this line of thinking.  This was going to be a "second golden era" in MUBB history.  That's why this precipitous fall  is so disturbing.  Four years of recruiting "his guys" has led to some of the worst basketball I have seen from MU in my lifetime, objectively and subjectively.  Which, as we all know, is the exact opposite of Goose's optimism.

Shaka is a great representative of MU.  He will hopefully turn this around.  MU needs to pour money into freshman studs going forward.  Need top 50 players coming in if we continue with this model.  A hybrid, Matt Painter, model would be great as well.  The fear is another year of this and Shaka starts losing his cache with parents and recruits.  This could snowball if they don't start winning next year. 

Develop this year.  Take our lumps.  Hope like hell things go better next year with help from development, red shirt freshman, standard freshman and maybe (cross you fingers) a couple portal players if some of the current players leave on their own.

Go MU, beat Georgetown!!


MU82

Ball-knower Goose was certain that Gold would be NBA-bound after his MU career, and might even leave after his junior year for NBA riches.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: MU82 on December 17, 2025, 12:32:02 PMBall-knower Goose was certain that Gold would be NBA-bound after his MU career, and might even leave after his junior year for NBA riches.

I only bring him up because it's a sentiment that seemed to be more universal, legitimate and more of a surety. "Shaka took Wojo holdovers and recruits and several transfers on the fly and won a Big East championship. Think of the possibilities after he gets his own guys into the system". 

Ben to the NBA seemed more of an individual opinion and less of a surety. 

wadesworld

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 17, 2025, 08:49:15 AMThis is my concern. I want to be optimistic, but the only real hit of Shaka's high school recruiting here has been Chase. Jop & Gold have been fine, but roleplayers as underclassmen and back end starters as upperclassmen isn't a hit, it's just meeting baseline expectations.

So far, Shaka is 1/13 on HS recruits really hitting. And that 1 is leaving in 3 months. Hard to gin up optimism.

Jop was undoubtedly a hit.  He was the second leading scorer and leading rebounder for a Tournament team last year, and the 4th leading scorer and rebounder for a Sweet 16 team as a junior.  If he wasn't, then any kid who doesn't become an All Big East player is a "miss."  He also recruited Oso while he was at Texas, as Oso had a final 3 of Texas, Stanford, and Marquette.

Still not good enough, at all.

MU82

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 17, 2025, 12:41:37 PMI only bring him up because it's a sentiment that seemed to be more universal, legitimate and more of a surety. "Shaka took Wojo holdovers and recruits and several transfers on the fly and won a Big East championship. Think of the possibilities after he gets his own guys into the system". 

Ben to the NBA seemed more of an individual opinion and less of a surety. 

That's reasonable.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: MU82 on December 17, 2025, 12:32:02 PMBall-knower Goose was certain that Gold would be NBA-bound after his MU career, and might even leave after his junior year for NBA riches.

He must have mistyped "NBL."
https://www.nbl.com.au/
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Markusquette

Quote from: JTJ3 on December 16, 2025, 08:52:14 PMIdeally, put me down for

Nigel
Stevens
Transfer
Royce
Transfer

That's about what I'd like to see. But I honestly wouldn't mind a swap of a transfer PG who splits minutes with James (assuming Jones goes elsewhere). I'm higher on Pearson than any other MU big man recruit (which is very easy to be), but I don't think he's going to be a big of an impact player until year 2. Another year of Hamiltoe at the 5 would be rough.

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