1966 Texas Western and Kentucky on ESPN

[Herman Cain]

They are replaying this classic game.  It is worth watching if you haven't seen it before.

Texas Western was the precursor that led to MU Blue Blood era.

These teams really stroke their free throws. 83 percent. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

The better game is actually UTEP (Texas Western) against Kansas for the regional finals.

[Galway Eagle]

I believe Loyola was the precursor to UTEP

[HouWarrior]

I believe Loyola was the precursor to UTEP

It was known as Texas Western, before becoming UTEP
I dont think there ever was even a Loyola in El Paso.

I missed the ESPN replay...how close was Glory Road to depicting the Game? Was Don Haskins wife actually that good looking? lol

[GGGG]

I believe Loyola was the precursor to UTEP

Loyola?  Precursor to the University of Texas El Paso?

[Galway Eagle]

Loyola?  Precursor to the University of Texas El Paso?

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Loyola was the first team to break the "gentleman's agreement" of never having more than 3 black players on the court at any time. In their championship season they started 4 black players repeatedly.  Yes 5 black players is a big deal but is 5/5 really considerably more ground breaking than 4/5? I personally don't think so. 

[GGGG]

Considering Texas Western is in a former slave state, played Kentucky coached by Rupp, and actually did start five, I would say that it was the most symbolic championship. That doesn't mean that Loyola or USF didn't play a part in that.

[HouWarrior]

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Loyola was the first team to break the "gentleman's agreement" of never having more than 3 black players on the court at any time. In their championship season they started 4 black players repeatedly.  Yes 5 black players is a big deal but is 5/5 really considerably more ground breaking than 4/5? I personally don't think so.

Sorry. you confused both of us with the precursor. The precursor to UTEP was Texas Western.

The precursor to teams involved in breaking the gentlemen's agreement  is a different matter entirely. Its ironic that we still refer to a racist agreement among whites as a "gentlemans" agreement. What was so gentlemanly about it?

Texas Western is way bigger a deal. By far. Loyola who?

Playing extra  black players in a regular season game pales in comparison to the TW NCAA champ game and in that game playing only black players for the entire game..esp against the all white team of legend Adolf Rupp. This was a national bombastic breakthrough...far outstripping the incremental steps leading up to it, in importance.

[Galway Eagle]

Yes I get it's against Adolf Rupp but that could've been against anyone it just happened that the stars aligned. Loyola's was against Cincinatti who I'd say was a bigger powerhouse at their respective periods coming off back to back championships, and the five prior final fours straight while Kentucky hadn't been to a Final four in 8 years.

Really the only part that I think is considerably more significant is that Texas Western was in the south and Kentucky was in the south. Beyond that Loyola had 5 black players total and started 4 Texas Western had 6 total.  It was big but I don't think big enough that it should completely void Loyola doing almost the same thing three years prior. 

[Herman Cain]

Yes I get it's against Adolf Rupp but that could've been against anyone it just happened that the stars aligned. Loyola's was against Cincinatti who I'd say was a bigger powerhouse at their respective periods coming off back to back championships, and the five prior final fours straight while Kentucky hadn't been to a Final four in 8 years.

Really the only part that I think is considerably more significant is that Texas Western was in the south and Kentucky was in the south. Beyond that Loyola had 5 black players total and started 4 Texas Western had 6 total.  It was big but I don't think big enough that it should completely void Loyola doing almost the same thing three years prior.

Kentucky was a very good team that was rated number 1. They had two All Americans, Texas Western had to play a near perfect game to win. That is why I enjoyed watching the game. The sheer quality of the basketball was very high. The fact that it had historical overtones is important but I just felt it was a heckuva of an on court achievement.

The achievements of Loyola were very impressive in their own right.  In many respects Loyola was  probably more challenged and paved the way for Texas Western.

Al utilized this basic athletic framework,took it to a higher level and had sustained excellence in our glory days.

[GGGG]

Yes I get it's against Adolf Rupp but that could've been against anyone it just happened that the stars aligned. Loyola's was against Cincinatti who I'd say was a bigger powerhouse at their respective periods coming off back to back championships, and the five prior final fours straight while Kentucky hadn't been to a Final four in 8 years.

Really the only part that I think is considerably more significant is that Texas Western was in the south and Kentucky was in the south. Beyond that Loyola had 5 black players total and started 4 Texas Western had 6 total.  It was big but I don't think big enough that it should completely void Loyola doing almost the same thing three years prior. 

In other words "I'm from Chicago and I'm being provincial." 

And no one said that what Loyola did should be completely voided.  Ever.

[muwarrior69]

Glory Road, great movie.

[drewm88]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8741183/game-change-mississippi-state-loyola-cannot-forgotten-college-basketball

Pretty sure this has been previously discussed on Scoop, but during Loyola's championship run in 1963, Mississippi St had to sneak out of Mississippi in order to come up to Michigan to play them. At the time they were banned from playing against integrated teams.