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Author Topic: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks  (Read 12111 times)

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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2016, 08:21:26 PM »
GT made 22 of 23(95%)  free throws for chriminey sakes!  every time we'd try to make a run and score, they would just neutralize it at the free throw line
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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2016, 08:58:56 PM »
Can anyone imagine how this team would be without Fischer?

The alternative is too terrible to consider.


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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #52 on: January 03, 2016, 09:44:31 PM »
Can anyone imagine how this team would be without Fischer?

The alternative is too terrible to consider.
Unfortunately our coach is ripping on him publicly.
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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2016, 10:29:57 PM »
Unfortunately our coach is ripping on him publicly.

When, Where did that happen??
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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #54 on: January 03, 2016, 10:43:59 PM »
Unfortunately our coach is ripping on him publicly.

Please provide link.
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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2016, 11:00:02 PM »
Unfortunately our coach is ripping on him publicly.

WTFO?


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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #57 on: January 04, 2016, 05:47:20 AM »
in summation of this topic, this sounds like one of those, does this dress make my arse look bigger?  actually, i feel this article is quite unfair.  if i were luke, i would be pissed.  to make him a scapegoat after 14 games is desperation at least. in all actuality, i think he's been a sort of unsung cog playing in the shadow of henry, whom many seem to think he can do no wrong.  hell, just last year at this time, people were naming their first, second and third born over his arrival and play. 

if anything luke, hang this one on your fridge like a fatty hangs their new years resolution pic up, look back and give the "fair weather" fans the finger
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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2016, 09:10:36 AM »
Not sure if this was what the poster was referring, but here is the link to the post game show with Homer and Mac:

http://cdn16.castfire.com/audio/303/4127/27727/2650334/marquettebasketball_2016-01-02-210234-8006-0-0-0.64k.mp3?cdn_id=33&uuid=0ad835e7a353d33fd3a0cf3b2a7733d6&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fespn.go.com%2Fmilwaukee%2F

Wojo is pissed at how we don't finish strong at the basket. Specifically talks about Luke and Henry but I think you can throw Hanif, Duane and JJJ in to the mix of guys who take it to the hoop and come away with nothing.

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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2016, 09:19:33 AM »
Maybe this has been mentioned previously in this thread but...Fischer needs to be more decisive. He needs to get the ball and make a move right away or kick it out and re-establish.  Right now he looks like he's thinking too much. He gets the ball and 2-3 seconds pass before anything happens. That allows his defender to get in good position, perimeter defenders to get in good position to help and Luke is standing there flat-footed with the ball. He needs to get back to having a sense of urgency in the post.



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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2016, 09:26:11 AM »
stole my thoughts plus, when Henry is a little down, he feels the need to try to carry the team and then actually hurts us by forcing shots.  it's like, well, i haven't scored much here, and he lowers his head and makes it clear that he is going to shoot regardless.  he hasn't played up against near the top talent of the league yet and his "freshman" is showing-that's ok.

That was a problem at Iowa too. Nothing was working and Henry tried to do too much on his own. Iowa keyed on him because he's the only guaranteed double double weapon we can count on at this point.

I like Henry a lot. But like most freshmen, he's quickly realized the Big East is not the WIAA and the talent level is far more consistent at the Big East than he ever saw in Rice Lake. I think he's going to be great, however long he stays. But he's adjusting. Henry will have the same problem someday when he moves from the Big East to the NBA.

Luke should be much more dominant than he is, particularly on defense. I'm not sure why he's not the force that Chris or Davante were. But, he too will learn.



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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #61 on: January 04, 2016, 09:27:12 AM »
Maybe this has been mentioned previously in this thread but...Fischer needs to be more decisive. He needs to get the ball and make a move right away or kick it out and re-establish.  Right now he looks like he's thinking too much. He gets the ball and 2-3 seconds pass before anything happens. That allows his defender to get in good position, perimeter defenders to get in good position to help and Luke is standing there flat-footed with the ball. He needs to get back to having a sense of urgency in the post.

Agree.  He also needs to understand that he does not HAVE to shoot when he gets the ball down low if he can't get a good shot.  (He also perhaps needs to gain a better understanding of what a good shot is).  He should work hard on making that baby hook of his from a little further out.  When he takes it outside a couple feet, he consistently leaves it short.  He is a solid rebounder and a good positional defender.  He is not terribly strong or terribly athletic, which was certainly a problem against Georgetown.  There's a lot to like in his game.  Just has a few areas to work on, like everybody on our roster.
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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2016, 10:04:58 AM »
He is not terribly strong or terribly athletic, which was certainly a problem against Georgetown.  There's a lot to like in his game.  Just has a few areas to work on, like everybody on our roster.

I have to think that the shoulder surgery is showing here.  He missed the most important time for a big -- so while he matured, I don't think his skill and strength matured at the level needed to perform as 'the man' yet.

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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2016, 10:52:19 AM »
Luke should be much more dominant than he is, particularly on defense. I'm not sure why he's not the force that Chris or Davante were. But, he too will learn.

For starters, he's 30-40 pounds lighter than Otule and Gardner. I'm also not sure that anyone ever considered Otule to be "a force."


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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #64 on: January 04, 2016, 10:52:32 AM »
Wojo is pissed at how we don't finish strong at the basket. Specifically talks about Luke and Henry but I think you can throw Hanif, Duane and JJJ in to the mix of guys who take it to the hoop and come away with nothing.
To me this is the problem. All Wojo wants to do is have the players take it to the basket. MU will finish 0-18 in conference, if Wojo does not wake up.

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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #65 on: January 04, 2016, 10:58:31 AM »
To me this is the problem. All Wojo wants to do is have the players take it to the basket. MU will finish 0-18 in conference, if Wojo does not wake up.

I'm sure the strategy is that simple.  ::)

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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #66 on: January 04, 2016, 12:48:23 PM »
They run a very similar offense that my dad's team does. That 4 out, short corners with the weave. They do that out of necessity because they don't have anybody that resembles a true big.

I know Wojo is a much better coach than I am but I don't think that's the right offense for the personel. Would like to see more pick and roll/pick and pop with henry and Luke. Looked how well it worked when Luke dove to the basket the 2 times where he got the dunk.

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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #67 on: January 04, 2016, 12:56:02 PM »
I have to think that the shoulder surgery is showing here.  He missed the most important time for a big -- so while he matured, I don't think his skill and strength matured at the level needed to perform as 'the man' yet.


I'm not sure how much more muscle he can put on that frame.

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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2016, 01:02:33 PM »

I'm not sure how much more muscle he can put on that frame.

Yep. He's not exactly a wide body in the post. He's basically as big as he's going to get.


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Re: Is Fischer really as bad as he looks
« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2016, 02:41:34 PM »
To me this is the problem. All Wojo wants to do is have the players take it to the basket. MU will finish 0-18 in conference, if Wojo does not wake up.
Excellent point. 
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