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River rat

Quote from: Johnny Basketball on September 06, 2014, 06:30:56 PM
With creihtons 17k per game you wonder why they can't get better recruits.

Umm the MVC maybe?

Atticus

Scholarship availability is kinda, sorta an important factor that's being ignored.

rjay.stephen

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on September 06, 2014, 01:33:22 PM
I thought this conference couldn't recruit with the big boys and was no longer relevant...

There's a difference between being able to recruit top 100 players, and being able to consistently compete with the top teams from the premier conferences. The Big East is by no means irrelevant, but to put it on the same level as the ACC, B1G, or PAC is just silly. Especially coming off of a year where there were 0 Big East teams in the Sweet 16.

NersEllenson

Quote from: rjay.stephen on September 08, 2014, 01:39:29 PM
There's a difference between being able to recruit top 100 players, and being able to consistently compete with the top teams from the premier conferences. The Big East is by no means irrelevant, but to put it on the same level as the ACC, B1G, or PAC is just silly. Especially coming off of a year where there were 0 Big East teams in the Sweet 16.

Good point. Though I do seem to recall 7-9 Georgetown beating Michigan State last season and an awful MU team being within 3 at Madison with 1 minute to go. Also recall MU beating UW Madison a couple of years in a row and going to 3 straight Sweet 16s with just as much if not less than current Top 100 recruits. Big East will be just fine. PAC 10 has no business beig mentioned as a good basketball league.
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Aughnanure

Quote from: Ners on September 08, 2014, 01:46:30 PM
Good point. Though I do seem to recall 7-9 Georgetown beating Michigan State last season and an awful MU team being within 3 at Madison with 1 minute to go. Also recall MU beating UW Madison a couple of years in a row and going to 3 straight Sweet 16s with just as much if not less than current Top 100 recruits. Big East will be just fine. PAC 10 has no business beig mentioned as a good basketball league.

This, they were horrendous for a long period of time. Oregon doesn't look to be moving up. UCLA will probably be good but not elite under Alford. Arizona is great, and Washington looks to be improving. But that's really it. Maybe Stanford returns to being good again? I don't think they're better than the SEC.

Put the Big 12 in there? Sure. They've been pretty deep for 3-4 years now.
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swoopem

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Quote from: Ners on September 08, 2014, 01:46:30 PM
Good point. Though I do seem to recall 7-9 Georgetown beating Michigan State last season and an awful MU team being within 3 at Madison with 1 minute to go. Also recall MU beating UW Madison a couple of years in a row and going to 3 straight Sweet 16s with just as much if not less than current Top 100 recruits. Big East will be just fine. PAC 10 has no business beig mentioned as a good basketball league.

Another big win for the conference was Nova beating Kansas
Bring back FFP!!!


marquette20

Brunson to Villanova. Big get for them. Will be fun to watch him, but hopefully lose to Marquette though.

StillWarriors

Huge get for Nova and the conference. Partner that with hopefully Ellenson to MU and that would be two big-time "gets" over blue-blood schools. Would love to see it happen. Brunson is the real deal; outstanding player.

BM1090

Quote from: StillWarriors on September 10, 2014, 04:51:04 PM
Huge get for Nova and the conference. Partner that with hopefully Ellenson to MU and that would be two big-time "gets" over blue-blood schools. Would love to see it happen. Brunson is the real deal; outstanding player.

And St John's is the favorite for Isiah Briscoe. Would be 3 consensus top 20 recruits

TAMU, Knower of Ball

If anyone is curious here is what the breakdown of ESPN 100 recruits by conference if all the current crystal ball predictions held. There is less than 1% chance of that happening but thought it would be fun to see where we currently stand.

SEC: 20
ACC: 19
Big 10: 18
Pac 12: 12
Big East: 10
Big 12: 9
AAC: 9
MWC: 2
A10: 1

SEC is setting itself up for a monster year it seems...and not even because of Kentucky. LSU has the #2 player, TAMU has two top 25, Florida has three locked up, and Auburn has two.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Johnny B

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 10, 2014, 08:10:54 PM
If anyone is curious here is what the breakdown of ESPN 100 recruits by conference if all the current crystal ball predictions held. There is less than 1% chance of that happening but thought it would be fun to see where we currently stand.

SEC: 20
ACC: 19
Big 10: 18
Pac 12: 12
Big East: 10
Big 12: 9
AAC: 9
MWC: 2
A10: 1

SEC is setting itself up for a monster year it seems...and not even because of Kentucky. LSU has the #2 player, TAMU has two top 25, Florida has three locked up, and Auburn has two.
What would it look like if you did it by # of teams per confrence.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Johnny Basketball on September 10, 2014, 08:15:33 PM
What would it look like if you did it by # of teams per confrence.

Not much different. Only ACC and B1G switch places. It also breaks the tie between the AAC and Big 12 and creates a tie between the BEast and PAC 12.

SEC: 1.40
B1G: 1.29
ACC: 1.27
PAC 12: 1.00
BEast: 1.00
Big 12: 0.90
AAC: 0.81
MWC: 0.18
A10: 0.07
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Here's the 2015 breakdown with the updated ESPN 100

Pac 12
Arizona: #17, #24, #27
Washington: #46, #52
UCLA: #45, #84
USC: #50, #82
Oregon State: #68, #76
Oregon: #83
6 teams with 0
Average per team: 1

ACC:
Louisville: #14, #29, #37, #51
Syracuse: #19, #47, #48, #73
Duke: #9, #26
Florida State: #30, #38, #81
Pittsburgh: #72
10 teams with 0
Average per team: .93

SEC:
LSU: #1
Texas A&M: #20, #34
Florida: #41, #53, #75
Auburn: #54, #66
Kentucky: #43
Arkansas: #67
Alabama: #77
7 teams with 0
Average per team: .79

Big 10
Michigan State: #15
Ohio State: #44, #60, #71
Illinois: #49
Rutgers: #55
Penn State: #80, #88
Nebraska: #65
8 teams with 0
Average per team: .64

Big East:
Villanova: #23
Marquette: #69, #79
Georgetown: #58
Providence: #89
6 teams with 0
Average per team: .50

Big 12:
West Virginia: #42
Baylor: #87
8 teams with 0
Average per team: .20

AAC:
UConn: #25
Memphis: #39
9 teams with 0
Average per team: .18

MWC:
San Diego State: #56
10 teams with 0
Average per team: .09

A10:
VCU: #78
13 teams with 0
Average per team: .07
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Updated results if all crystal balls hold true with new ESPN 100

First number is with crystal ball predictions. (2nd number is current commits)

SEC: 21 (11)
ACC: 18 (14)
B1G: 15 (9)
P12: 14 (12)
BE: 11 (5)
AAC: 10 (2)
B12: 8 (2)
MWC: 2 (1)
A10: 1 (1)

If you do it by # per team in conference you get:

SEC: 1.50
ACC: 1.28
P12: 1.17
BE: 1.10
B1G: 1.07
AAC: 0.91
B12: 0.80
MWC: 0.18
A10: 0.07
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Johnny B


TAMU, Knower of Ball

If current crystal balls hold true, here is the average rank of top 100 recruits for each conference.

MWC: 33.0 (2)
ACC: 40.6 (18)
SEC: 45.0 (21)
B12: 49.6 (8)
AAC: 50.3 (10)
P12: 53.9 (14)
B1G: 59.5 (15)
BE: 62.3 (11)
A10: 78.0 (1)

This is a little more concerning. We are getting a solid amount of top 100 recruits but they are mostly at the bottom half of the top 100. Obviously it's still early. The rankings will get updated again and crystal balls are not very accurate. Still fun to look at.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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oldwarrior81

I think since the Lebron high school class the odds of a player that had a top 5 high school ranking of being drafted are more than 95%.

The percentage of a player being drafted that was ranked between 30-50 is around 17%.
For players ranked between 51-80 it's around 15%.

Once you get past the 5-star recruits there really isn't a difference between the odds of a # 40 blossoming in an NBA talent vs a player ranked # 70 reaching that same level.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: oldwarrior81 on September 12, 2014, 02:40:39 PM
I think since the Lebron high school class the odds of a player that had a top 5 high school ranking of being drafted are more than 95%.

The percentage of a player being drafted that was ranked between 30-50 is around 17%.
For players ranked between 51-80 it's around 15%.

Once you get past the 5-star recruits there really isn't a difference between the odds of a # 40 blossoming in an NBA talent vs a player ranked # 70 reaching that same level.

Im curious to know who the 5% were that didnt get drafted.

MuMark


Johnny B

Quote from: oldwarrior81 on September 12, 2014, 02:40:39 PM
I think since the Lebron high school class the odds of a player that had a top 5 high school ranking of being drafted are more than 95%.

The percentage of a player being drafted that was ranked between 30-50 is around 17%.
For players ranked between 51-80 it's around 15%.

Once you get past the 5-star recruits there really isn't a difference between the odds of a # 40 blossoming in an NBA talent vs a player ranked # 70 reaching that same level.
The 51-80 probally is the guys in the 50s 60s. Do 70-100

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