So They Fixed the Air in San Antonio

[wadesworld]

"LeBust?"  Really?

Haha.  Just like irking people.

[Class71]

Haha.  Just like irking people.

[Dawson Rental]

The NBA can boot Sterling within minutes of the illegal recording being released, but cannot get the air conditioning fixed at an arena quickly. It is all about PC priorities.

Sterling was booted within minutes?  Hyperbole - the refuge of those who instinctively know that their outrage over a situation is totally out of scale with what they are complaining about.

[MU82]

It's pretty simple.  Don't say racist stuff to your mistress over the phone and you won't be forced to sell your NBA team for $2B.

Even simpler: Don't be a racist!

[willie warrior]

Ah,  yes,  Willie the champion for those that make an a 18000% return on their investments.   

And Reinko, the champion of the class envy crowd. FYI, if you read posts, you have seen that I have blasted Sterling for being a stupid jerk. But being stupid or being rich does not mean one should not have due process, unless you are in Russia, Cuba, or some other third world country.

[MU82]

LeBust is a Powerade guy.  Says everything you need to know about him right there.

I prefer Powerade Zero to all the others of that ilk.

As a fan who doesn't root for either team, I also prefer LeBron be playing rather than sitting on the bench because I happen to enjoy watching the greatest player in the world and one of the 10 greatest (5 greatest?) of all-time.

[GooooMarquette]

If the Spurs do better than the "Heat" when it's warm, maybe the American Airlines Arena crew should set the thermostat at about 55 degrees for game 3.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

And Reinko, the champion of the class envy crowd. FYI, if you read posts, you have seen that I have blasted Sterling for being a stupid jerk. But being stupid or being rich does not mean one should not have due process, unless you are in Russia, Cuba, or some other third world country.

Every one deserves due process...in a court of law.

We live in a capitalist society. That means when an owner makes embarrassing comments that could financially harm an organization, the organization can take steps to remove that owner with little oversight. Capitalism at it's finest.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Every one deserves due process...in a court of law.

We live in a capitalist society. That means when an owner makes embarrassing comments that could financially harm an organization, the organization can take steps to remove that owner with little oversight. Capitalism at it's finest.

Thank you. The first amendment applies to governments infringing on rights of speech. There is no government involvement in this case whatsoever. A private enterprise chose to punish someone for saying something stupid (and it's not like it's the first time, it's an extended pattern of behavior). Just because you have the freedom to say anything you want, does not mean there are not consequences outside of the governmental sphere. As usual, willie has no idea what he is talking about.

[CTWarrior]

Thank you. The first amendment applies to governments infringing on rights of speech. There is no government involvement in this case whatsoever. A private enterprise chose to punish someone for saying something stupid (and it's not like it's the first time, it's an extended pattern of behavior). Just because you have the freedom to say anything you want, does not mean there are not consequences outside of the governmental sphere. As usual, willie has no idea what he is talking about.

I would agree with you if his comments were made publicly.  He is a probably a racist old goat and I have zero sympathy for him, but I personally would hate to be fined and forced to sell my most precious asset based on the worst thing I've said in a private conversation.  It's going to work out well for him, as $2B is nice consolation, but I really don't like the idea of private conversations where no criminal activities are discussed having such repercussions.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I would agree with you if his comments were made publicly.  He is a probably a racist old goat and I have zero sympathy for him, but I personally would hate to be fined and forced to sell my most precious asset based on the worst thing I've said in a private conversation.  It's going to work out well for him, as $2B is nice consolation, but I really don't like the idea of private conversations where no criminal activities are discussed having such repercussions.

To me it's not about right or wrong. It's about business. If you have an owner who is caught making racist comments, whether they are public or just made public, it is bad for business. If you are that high up the chain you sacrifice certain personal rights.

[GGGG]

And Reinko, the champion of the class envy crowd. FYI, if you read posts, you have seen that I have blasted Sterling for being a stupid jerk. But being stupid or being rich does not mean one should not have due process, unless you are in Russia, Cuba, or some other third world country.

willie needs to head back to civics class...

[GooooMarquette]

To me it's not about right or wrong. It's about business. If you have an owner who is caught making racist comments, whether they are public or just made public, it is bad for business. If you are that high up the chain you sacrifice certain personal rights.

Agree 100%.  Business owners and high level execs often get amazing wealth, priviliges and perks...but with that comes life under a microscope.  I'm guessing most Fortune 500 companies would fire their CEOs for making batantly racist statements, public or not.  And like with Sterling's $2 billion consolation prize, many would walk away with nice severance packages.  It comes with the territory.

[Coleman]

And Reinko, the champion of the class envy crowd. FYI, if you read posts, you have seen that I have blasted Sterling for being a stupid jerk. But being stupid or being rich does not mean one should not have due process, unless you are in Russia, Cuba, or some other third world country.

Sterling isn't going to jail.

If you are a fan of private enterprise like most conservatives claim to be, you will respect the NBA's right to remove someone from the association they deem detrimental to their business.

You are making a fool of yourself.

[Class71]

Not sure what air conditioning Miami and LJ have to do with Sterling and the Clippers. You may wish to start a separate post on a different topic.

[MUSF]

Thank you. The first amendment applies to governments infringing on rights of speech. There is no government involvement in this case whatsoever. A private enterprise chose to punish someone for saying something stupid (and it's not like it's the first time, it's an extended pattern of behavior). Just because you have the freedom to say anything you want, does not mean there are not consequences outside of the governmental sphere. As usual, willie has no idea what he is talking about.

Exactly, your freedom of speech does not make you free from all consequences of your speech. I get soooo tired of the freedom of speech / free country arguments.

[willie warrior]

Sterling isn't going to jail.

If you are a fan of private enterprise like most conservatives claim to be, you will respect the NBA's right to remove someone from the association they deem detrimental to their business.

You are making a fool of yourself.

And so are you sir by stating that I am a conservative without knowing me. I do not respect the right of someone to remove somebody without a hearing, evidence and due process. What the NBA did was remove somebody based on a recorded private conversation. Based on what you have stated, then you must support that notion for removing anybody from any association. A very slippery slope. Removing somebody from a union based on a private conversation; removing  a police officer based on a private conversation; removing a military person based on a private conversation; removing a member of the NAACP based on a private conversation; removing a member of a Chamber of Commerce based on a private conversation; removing a PGA member based on a private conversation; etc., etc., etc. Surrender all your rights at the door. No excuses accepted, except based on who you know or are related to. I guess with my feelings stated here I could be categorized as a progressive, rather than a conservative. Maybe common sense should prevail rather than "mob" rule.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

And so are you sir by stating that I am a conservative without knowing me. I do not respect the right of someone to remove somebody without a hearing, evidence and due process. What the NBA did was remove somebody based on a recorded private conversation. Based on what you have stated, then you must support that notion for removing anybody from any association. A very slippery slope. Removing somebody from a union based on a private conversation; removing  a police officer based on a private conversation; removing a military person based on a private conversation; removing a member of the NAACP based on a private conversation; removing a member of a Chamber of Commerce based on a private conversation; removing a PGA member based on a private conversation; etc., etc., etc. Surrender all your rights at the door. No excuses accepted, except based on who you know or are related to. I guess with my feelings stated here I could be categorized as a progressive, rather than a conservative. Maybe common sense should prevail rather than "mob" rule.

Again Willie, we live in a capitalist society. There are almost no rights in the private industry. There are contractual rights but the Bill of Rights does not apply. Unless you want to move to a communist society where the government and the economy are intermingled, you can't expect these protections to exist.

So to answer you question, yes, I'm okay with most of those people being removed based on making racist that they thought would remain private. Well, all the ones that were jobs in the private sector.

[MU82]

Again Willie, we live in a capitalist society. There are almost no rights in the private industry. There are contractual rights but the Bill of Rights does not apply. Unless you want to move to a communist society where the government and the economy are intermingled, you can't expect these protections to exist.

So to answer you question, yes, I'm okay with most of those people being removed based on making racist that they thought would remain private. Well, all the ones that were jobs in the private sector.

Dopes who say racist and other idiotic stuff in emails -- foolishly thinking the emails are private -- are fired all the time after their bosses read the emails.

Not even a scintilla of sympathy for that old racist dirtbag. If he got hit by a bus tomorrow, the world would be better off.

[GGGG]

And so are you sir by stating that I am a conservative without knowing me. I do not respect the right of someone to remove somebody without a hearing, evidence and due process. What the NBA did was remove somebody based on a recorded private conversation. Based on what you have stated, then you must support that notion for removing anybody from any association. A very slippery slope. Removing somebody from a union based on a private conversation; removing  a police officer based on a private conversation; removing a military person based on a private conversation; removing a member of the NAACP based on a private conversation; removing a member of a Chamber of Commerce based on a private conversation; removing a PGA member based on a private conversation; etc., etc., etc. Surrender all your rights at the door. No excuses accepted, except based on who you know or are related to. I guess with my feelings stated here I could be categorized as a progressive, rather than a conservative. Maybe common sense should prevail rather than "mob" rule.

willie....

It is a contract issue between two private entities.  The contract they agreed to determines the relationship and when and how it may be severed.  It has nothing to do with "due process" other than both parties must abide by the contract.

So please stop using Constitutional terms that simply do not apply to this case.