Monday leak theory

[mu03eng]

Not sure if anyone has floated this theory as to the leak on Monday.  Randomly popped into my head this morning.  IWB and his done deal had nothing to do with AD sources supposedly, so it had to come from Ganzer's recruiting and player contacts.  This was around the time Sandy Cohen was putting stuff out there about being released.

Thoughts on the athletic department thinking a deal was imminent and panicking a little bit over recruit/player unrest let them know what was going on.  We know MU has been very aware of the perception of the school for whatever future coach comes(especially Smart) and player unrest has to be something they wanted to avoid at the time.

It's a theory and really water under the bridge but just curious if anyone had similar thoughts.

EDIT:  Also explains why Bullseye Prep would have the news as well.

[UticaBusBarn]

Could be ... however, if one strips away the smoke, it seems that internally Shaka Smart was picked as the first choice before Brent sneaked out of town. One might expect that he was targeted after a series of preliminary contacts with other possibilities.

It would also appear that the response from Smart was positive. Things moved rather quickly, and MU and Shark got close to a deal. At the same time, VCU as well as Shark knew and then found out their highly reputed assistant was talking to, and then did a deal with Rice University.

Shark who was on the fence given this, decided not to accept the offer and be true to his employer, unlike you know who. Despite what all the Ram posters said, the deal got very, very close.

The press availability of yesterday, was de facto an admission that play Smart did not work out, as Cords used it as a vehicle to buy time as the school shifted into full plan B mode.

All the rest, UFO and Elvis sightings aside, were caused by reset fatigue.

[Hards Alumni]

Could be ... however, if one strips away the smoke, it seems that internally Shaka Smart was picked as the first choice before Brent sneaked out of town. One might expect that he was targeted after a series of preliminary contacts with other possibilities.

It would also appear that the response from Smart was positive. Things moved rather quickly, and MU and Shark got close to a deal. At the same time, VCU as well as Shark knew and then found out their highly reputed assistant was talking to, and then did a deal with Rice University.

Shark who was on the fence given this, decided not to accept the offer and be true to his employer, unlike you know who. Despite what all the Ram posters said, the deal got very, very close.

The press availability of yesterday, was de facto an admission that play Smart did not work out, as Cords used it as a vehicle to buy time as the school shifted into full plan B mode.

All the rest, UFO and Elvis sightings aside, were caused by reset fatigue.

IMO Shaka agreed to go to the prom with us if we got a limousine to bring us there... We brought the limo but he stood us up anyway.

[NRVA]

I'm still trying to find out why y'all think this deal got "so close".  Everything I've read has said something like "MU offered Coach Smart a gazillion dollars and he said no". 

I admit, I don't know much about Marquette basketball (I've learned a lot since Monday lol), but I see that y'all are quite a proud fan base.  I just want to hear more about what actually happened, but we probably never will.

All these posts about Coach Smart being a diva, a tease, etc. just make y'all look bad.  I know it's only a few posters, but that's the image being projected in my opinion. 

Shaka Smart would have been a great pick up for y'all, but it didn't work out.  VCU is lucky to have him, not only as a coach, but a member of the community.

[Hards Alumni]

I'm still trying to find out why y'all think this deal got "so close".  Everything I've read has said something like "MU offered Coach Smart a gazillion dollars and he said no". 

I admit, I don't know much about Marquette basketball (I've learned a lot since Monday lol), but I see that y'all are quite a proud fan base.  I just want to hear more about what actually happened, but we probably never will.

All these posts about Coach Smart being a diva, a tease, etc. just make y'all look bad.  I know it's only a few posters, but that's the image being projected in my opinion. 

Shaka Smart would have been a great pick up for y'all, but it didn't work out.  VCU is lucky to have him, not only as a coach, but a member of the community.

Fair points.  Some people here are casual fans.  Some have insider knowledge.  Some read things that people with insider knowledge state.  The problem is the interpretation.  We are very proud fans, with a proud tradition.

While I am not a big fan of @prepbullseye (Roy Schmidt), and he totally went off the handle... so that would lead me to believe that he knows SOMETHING about the situation... otherwise, why get upset.

Mike Rice ‏@mrrice22 12h

@mike_e_nelson @prepbullseye how involved was strong and was it the lack of leadership that made it fall apart?

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Roy Schmidt ‏@prepbullseye Protected Tweets 12h

@mrrice22 @mike_e_nelson He was very much involved & yes--lack of previous leadership was a contributing factor.

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Mike Rice ‏@mrrice22 11h

@prepbullseye @mike_e_nelson so at the end of the day was it Shaka wanting to remain at VCU or Shaka not wanting to go to Marquette?

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Roy Schmidt ‏@prepbullseye Protected Tweets 11h

@mrrice22 @mike_e_nelson Again, why does it matter? Bottom line is that he turned down Marquette even AFTER they met his foremost demand.

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Mike Rice ‏@mrrice22 11h

@prepbullseye @mike_e_nelson foremost demand...hire a president?

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@mrrice22 @mike_e_nelson Correct.
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7:27 PM - 27 Mar 2014 · Details

[NavinRJohnson]

IMO Shaka agreed to go to the prom with us if we got a limousine to bring us there... We brought the limo but he stood us up anyway.

Perhaps, unless in his opinion, the limo was a town car.

[muhoops1]

I'm still trying to find out why y'all think this deal got "so close".  Everything I've read has said something like "MU offered Coach Smart a gazillion dollars and he said no". 

I admit, I don't know much about Marquette basketball (I've learned a lot since Monday lol), but I see that y'all are quite a proud fan base.  I just want to hear more about what actually happened, but we probably never will.

All these posts about Coach Smart being a diva, a tease, etc. just make y'all look bad.  I know it's only a few posters, but that's the image being projected in my opinion. 

Shaka Smart would have been a great pick up for y'all, but it didn't work out.  VCU is lucky to have him, not only as a coach, but a member of the community.

Is the infusion of y'all in written form supposed to reinforce that you are in fact a Southerner who just stumbled across this site and felt compelled to contribute.  Y'all come back now...ya hear.

[Windyplayer]

Fair points.  Some people here are casual fans.  Some have insider knowledge.  Some read things that people with insider knowledge state.  The problem is the interpretation.  We are very proud fans, with a proud tradition.

While I am not a big fan of @prepbullseye (Roy Schmidt), and he totally went off the handle... so that would lead me to believe that he knows SOMETHING about the situation... otherwise, why get upset.

Mike Rice ‏@mrrice22 12h

@mike_e_nelson @prepbullseye how involved was strong and was it the lack of leadership that made it fall apart?

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Roy Schmidt ‏@prepbullseye Protected Tweets 12h

@mrrice22 @mike_e_nelson He was very much involved & yes--lack of previous leadership was a contributing factor.

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Mike Rice ‏@mrrice22 11h

@prepbullseye @mike_e_nelson so at the end of the day was it Shaka wanting to remain at VCU or Shaka not wanting to go to Marquette?

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@mrrice22 @mike_e_nelson Again, why does it matter? Bottom line is that he turned down Marquette even AFTER they met his foremost demand.

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Mike Rice ‏@mrrice22 11h

@prepbullseye @mike_e_nelson foremost demand...hire a president?

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@mrrice22 @mike_e_nelson Correct.
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7:27 PM - 27 Mar 2014 · Details

Is this is true--wow. I've lost a ton of respect for Shaka. MU went so far as to move up their timeline to hire the leader of their university to meet Shaka's demands and he still stood is up. What a piece of crap (again, if the reports are true; big if).

[tower912]

IWB, on his radio show last night, said he had 4 sources, none related to the MU athletic department, all of whom he has known for a while and trusts completely, tell him that Shaka to MU was going to happen.    Clearly, he was wrong.   He admitted it, owned it, and explained about the 4 independent sources.    For whatever reason, Shaka backed out.   

[shakanotforsale]

I have another theory.  You got trolled and Shaka told you to f off.  Truth hurts, so you keep coming up with these vast and unsubstantiated theories to make yourselves feel better. 

[bean]

I have another theory.  You got trolled and Shaka told you to f off.  Truth hurts, so you keep coming up with these vast and unsubstantiated theories to make yourselves feel better. 

LOL...keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.  Shaka was close to signing, I have no doubt about that.  He wants out of VCU.  It's just a matter of the right offer with the right conditions.

[Goatherder]

I'm still trying to find out why y'all think this deal got "so close".  Everything I've read has said something like "MU offered Coach Smart a gazillion dollars and he said no". 

I admit, I don't know much about Marquette basketball (I've learned a lot since Monday lol), but I see that y'all are quite a proud fan base.  I just want to hear more about what actually happened, but we probably never will.

All these posts about Coach Smart being a diva, a tease, etc. just make y'all look bad.  I know it's only a few posters, but that's the image being projected in my opinion. 

Shaka Smart would have been a great pick up for y'all, but it didn't work out.  VCU is lucky to have him, not only as a coach, but a member of the community.

Y'all are sittin' down in Richmond, figuring that nothing ever happened, and we'all made it all up.  Y'all are way wrong.  Some of the things on y'all's message board are beyond ridiculous.  

"Don't they understand?  It never happened!  There WAS NO CONTACT!"  

"Why would he want to leave?  He has everything he could want here.  We're building a $25 million practice facility."

"Shaka is OUR coach, and he is not leaving for ANYWHERE!  Not Marquette, not Duke, not Kansas, nowhere!"

OK, I will write off the last one to the use by some of y'all of too many recreational drugs, although I didn't think Virginia was one of the states that legalized it.

Well, here is reality.  Why would he want to leave?  He would have doubled his salary.  He would have moved to a program with much better resources in a much better conference, with a much better TV deal.  That $25 million practice facility y'all are building?  We'all already have one.  It is state of the art, and other universities have dropped by to take a look so they can copy it.  

There is no way that nothing happened.  The folks who were reporting it have excellent contacts.  There were specific details disclosed, like which famous Marquette alum was involved, and who exactly made a trip to Richmond yesterday to try to finalize the deal.  (And whose private plane they flew in.)  Think for a minute.  If there was no contact, if Marquette fans made the whole thing up, why were national reporters reporting YESTERDAY that Shaka had turned down the deal?  Why did the reports go from, "there is no final agreement" and "VCU is denying he is leaving" on Monday to "He turned it down" on Thursday?  The only explanation that makes sense is that there was a whole lot of contact between the parties, a very specific deal on the table, and negotiations ended yesterday.

Why do Marquette fans think they got left at the altar?  Look at this.  Reputable sources say on Monday that Smart has agreed to come to Marquette.  Then sources say there is no agreement.  Several of them mention that the lack of a permanent president is hurting the search.  On Wednesday, Marquette moves up the announcement of its new president.  On Thursday, the national media report that Smart has turned down an offer from Marquette.  Are y'all seeing a pattern here?  

Y'all are complaining about how arrogant Marquette fans are, how we figger no coach could turn down an offer from us.  Y'all are wrong. We'all can deal with rejection.  As a famous former Marquette coach put it when talking to a recruit, "We're gonna win with you, or we're gonna win without you."  (Note:  He didn't say "y'all."  He was from New Yawk.)  Coaching deals fall through all the time.  In the last few years, a few coaches have changed their minds on their way to their new job.  Of course, in the age of Twitter, there is a lot more reported about it.  Why did this one fall through?  Hell son, we'all don't know!  Maybe his little lady dint like it here in the Nawth.  It don't matter.

What we find arrogant is the suggestion that the whole deal was made up, that we'all are just jealous of y'all's coach.  He's good, or we'all wouldn't have wanted him.  But so are lots of other people, and we'all get one.  And as our former coach put it, we'all'l win with him, or we'all'l win without him.  

So good luck to y'all.  And if we'all should meet y'all on the court, we'all'l whip y'all's asses.

[Hards Alumni]

I have another theory.  You got trolled and Shaka told you to f off.  Truth hurts, so you keep coming up with these vast and unsubstantiated theories to make yourselves feel better. 

I have another theory.  You are only trolling, and you know Shaka was interested.  Truth hurts, so you keep coming up with these childish comments that make your entire fan base seem extremely petty.

high five, bro.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I have another theory.  You got trolled and Shaka told you to f off.  Truth hurts, so you keep coming up with these vast and unsubstantiated theories to make yourselves feel better. 

I think my favorite part is that you still stick around even though its a done deal. If that doesnt prove that MU is a better program I dont know what qualifies. If you really thought we were a lesser program you wouldnt give a damn.