Cracked Sidewalks: The Case for Shaka Smart

[brewcity77]

So let's say Shaka does become coach at MU. Does that restore IWB's credibility because he broke this story in 2014?

[GOO]

IWB sure as heck better tweet Done Deal if he comes to MU!

If we seriously have a choice of Shaka or Moser, wow.  Not saying we do.

[Heisenberg]

I know you often troll...

No, I'm serious, I don't see him as an upgrade.  He is a lateral move, and maybe worse. 

[shoothoops]

So you're saying the guy who has had 5 top-20 classes in the last 6 years, a McDonald's All-American in the other class, and was recruiting at the same (actually slightly higher) level at VCU than Wojo was at Marquette isn't a "Proven Recruiter"? Dude, don't be a clown.

You alternate between personal attacks and projection, but I am wond too tight and need to lighten up, got it. Name calling isn't necessary here.

The written piece said Shaka Smart is a proven recruiter. i didn't say Shaka Smart wasn't a proven recruiter. What I said was Moser's recruiting wasn't included in this piece even though his recruiting helped SLU win the A-10 over Shaka Smart's VCU teams twice along with an additional 2nd place league finish. Why include one without the other? Just include both. Smart did well at the time too. 👍

[Galway Eagle]

No, I'm serious, I don't see him as an upgrade.  He is a lateral move, and maybe worse.

He's definitely not worse. That's pretty much indisputable. I'm in the lateral move camp though can't argue that defense will be better to watch than the revolving door Wojo put in.

[JakeBarnes]

There's no subway on campus anymore they ripped that strip mall up the year after I graduated. RIP Kampus Foods

Well damn. Where are we supposed to post our Scoop Scoopers?

[Hards Alumni]

So let's say Shaka does become coach at MU. Does that restore IWB's credibility because he broke this story in 2014?

#EventuallyDoneDeal

[Goose]

Fingers crossed that Shaka gets the nod. Hopefully can it done ASAP and let him start chasing some transfers to MU.

[Hards Alumni]

No, I'm serious, I don't see him as an upgrade.  He is a lateral move, and maybe worse.

You're smarter than that.  One has a Final four, multiple NCAA wins, and won the Big 12 this year in one of it's strongest years ever.

The other is Wojo.

[Heisenberg]

I'm sorry but Brew's constant panning of Moser makes me think he is a charlatan. His influence on the program along with the Anonymous/Paint/Cracked axis has made things worse.

As I said in another post, the sooner Scholl deletes his phone number, the sooner the program can get to where we want it.

[brewcity77]

You alternate between personal attacks and projection, but I am wond too tight and need to lighten up, got it. Name calling isn't necessary here.

The written piece said Shaka Smart is a proven recruiter. i didn't say Shaka Smart wasn't a proven recruiter. What I said was Moser's recruiting wasn't included in this piece even though his recruiting helped SLU win the A-10 over Shaka Smart's VCU teams twice along with an additional 2nd place league finish. Why include one without the other? Just include both. Smart did well at the time too. 👍

From 2012-2021, Moser had two top-100 classes. None in the top-80. Shaka's worst class was ranked #101, that was the Greg Brown class. No others outside the top-60. I don't have access to the rest, but putting quotes around proven recruiter is a clear attempt to denigrate one of the best recruiters in the country over the past 6 years.

[Heisenberg]

You're smarter than that.  One has a Final four, multiple NCAA wins, and won the Big 12 this year in one of it's strongest years ever.

The other is Wojo.

So pick Moser and everyone is happy

[Galway Eagle]

So pick Moser and everyone is happy

Except for Shaka, have a feeling he might not be happy about that.

[JakeBarnes]

Fingers crossed that Shaka gets the nod. Hopefully can it done ASAP and let him start chasing some transfers to MU.

Agreed. This transfer portal is nuts and a ton of talent (Kessler, Baker Jr, Fletcher, Tre Mitchell, etc). "Recruiting" the kids already here is another big part.

You have to think Scholl wants to balance making the right hire and also ensuring we can make $$$ with a decent product on the court that puts butts in seats.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Agreed. This transfer portal is nuts and a ton of talent (Kessler, Baker Jr, Fletcher, Tre Mitchell, etc). "Recruiting" the kids already here is another big part.

You have to think Scholl wants to balance making the right hire and also ensuring we can make $$$ with a decent product on the court that puts butts in seats.

Speaking of transfers, players are fleeing Texas. We wanna bring in the guy they're running from?

[CountryRoads]

Fingers crossed that Shaka gets the nod. Hopefully can it done ASAP and let him start chasing some transfers to MU.

I think there's a chance Shaka could have us competing for an NCAA bid this year. I get the feeling Moser may take more time to implement his system/culture (but just my opinion obviously).

[JakeBarnes]

Speaking of transfers, players are fleeing Texas. We wanna bring in the guy they're running from?

Well 2 are "fleeing" to the NBA draft. 3 are graduating. 2 roles players are actually transferring (in a year with a record number of transfers)

Hamm Jr and Williams averaged 1.9 pts and 3.3 pts respectively and averaged under 10 mins a game. Williams has had a ton of injuries. I imagine they are transferring for the same reason Symir did--playing time and maybe a step down a level.

[shoothoops]

From 2012-2021, Moser had two top-100 classes. None in the top-80. Shaka's worst class was ranked #101, that was the Greg Brown class. No others outside the top-60. I don't have access to the rest, but putting quotes around proven recruiter is a clear attempt to denigrate one of the best recruiters in the country over the past 6 years.

This isn't difficult. It isn't complicated. Let's include everything for everyone in apples to apples fairness.

The written piece here mentions Smart as a proven recruiter. That's great. But it also omits the fact that Moser recruited the bulk of the players for SLU that won the A-10 twice over VCU, and finished with an additional 2nd place. It seems as though it's a relevant piece of information. I see Moser was mentioned with regards to other things in the piece.

I put quotes around proven recruiter because I am literally quoting the piece linked in this thread.

Do we play to win the game? Or do we play to win the recruiting rankings?

Obviously Moser recruited many players that were good enough to finish better than Smart's VCU teams at a similar time in the same league. That seems relevant in a piece that includes these two specific coaches as well as mentions recruiting. I pointed out that both coaches did well. That seems to irrationally bother you.

[JakeBarnes]

https://twitter.com/GaryParrishCBS/status/1375467312476721153

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Texas coach Shaka Smart has emerged as a leading candidate to become Marquette's next coach, a source told @CBSSports.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

I hope Ms. Smart is ready for a lot of awfully awkward social interactions...

[Hards Alumni]

This isn't difficult. It isn't complicated. Let's include everything for everyone in apples to apples fairness.

The written piece here mentions Smart as a proven recruiter. That's great. But it also omits the fact that Moser recruited the bulk of the players for SLU that won the A-10 twice over VCU, and finished with an additional 2nd place. It seems as though it's a relevant piece of information. I see Moser was mentioned with regards to other things in the piece.

I put quotes around proven recruiter because I am literally quoting the piece linked in this thread.

Do we play to win the game? Or do we play to win the recruiting rankings?

Obviously Moser recruited many players that were good enough to finish better than Smart's VCU teams at a similar time in the same league. That seems relevant in a piece that includes these two specific coaches as well as mentions recruiting. I pointed out that both coaches did well. That seems to irrationally bother you.

Okay, but when on his own where are Mosers's proven recruits while he has been at LUC?  LUC and SLU are very similar programs, yet Moser's recruiting success hasn't continued from when he was at SLU.

Could this be that Moser has had to sell himself and LUC instead of Majerus and SLU?

I think you're just arguing because you like to argue.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Great write-up.

My personal list is 1. Smart 2. Smith 3. Gates 4. Moser   With the caveat that I'd be excited to have any of them as our next coach.  They all have their strengths and their failings.  The only one on the list with high-major chops is Mr. Smart.  Which is why he is my favorite.

I'm pretty much in the same boat.

1. Smart is my top choice but I realize his buyout could be prohibitive.

2. Gates has an intriguing upside but I realize he could be a flight risk.  If he didn't alay those fears in an interview, he moves down my list.

3. Smith has a long list of coaching awards but I do question his recruiting fit.  Plus, I'm not sure if he's interested in Marquette so Smith might be a total nonfactor at this point.

4. Porter would be a solid choice and I would support him if he's hired. This tourney run moved him up my list from the top of tier 2 to the bottom tier 1.  Plus, he might really want the job.  Part of the interview process is showing your desire for the position. Moser could see Marquette as his final destination and provide 10-15 years of coaching stability, assuming he's successful at MU.

Of course, I'm not part of the interviews so my outsider perspective has to respect the process.  Anybody on this list is fine with me.

[JakeBarnes]

I hope Ms. Smart is ready for a lot of awfully awkward social interactions...

I hope our fanbase gives up on the idea that this was real.

But then again, they believe lots of thigns that haven't happened.

[shoothoops]

Okay, but when on his own where are Mosers's proven recruits while he has been at LUC?  LUC and SLU are very similar programs, yet Moser's recruiting success hasn't continued from when he was at SLU.

Could this be that Moser has had to sell himself and LUC instead of Majerus and SLU?

I think you're just arguing because you like to argue.

Actually SLU and Loyola are not similar programs, and, at the time A-10 was a strong league.

By saying recruiting success didn't continue for SLU after Moser left, you are making the case for the value of Moser's recruiting there at the time.

The piece was about Shaka Smart and Porter Moser.

[Hards Alumni]

Actually SLU and Loyola are not similar programs, and, at the time A-10 was a strong league.

By saying recruiting success didn't continue for SLU after Moser left, you are making the case for the value of Moser's recruiting there at the time.

The piece was about Shaka Smart and Porter Moser.

You're deliberately evading what I asked.  It's fine, I should know better.