TODD MAYO SHOULD BE A STARTER!!!! PERIOD

[Nevada233]

Wrong on so many levels.

Marquette basketball is a better basketball program with Todd Mayo on the court. It really is that simple.

The "bad Todd" thing is so exaggerated.

If Todd wasn't on the team we have 5 wins maximum .

Right what Todd brings is wayyy better than
What Jake brings. If you cant create a shot you shouldnt
Be out there 30 minutes a night. While people who can are sitting
On the Bench. I know todd is a wild card but sheesh this team
The way it is isnt gonna finish over .500

[UticaBusBarn]

Todd May is inconsistent. However, much like Vander Blue, he is cold blooded and has "clutch" in his DNA.

One cannot be coached to be "the man" when the game is on the line. One either has "it", or does not have it.

Todd Mayo has it, and, indeed, should continue to play 30 minutes a game, especially the last six to ten minutes of each half.

[Nevada233]

Todd May is inconsistent. However, much like Vander Blue, he is cold blooded and has "clutch" in his DNA.

One cannot be coached to be "the man" when the game is on the line. One either has "it", or does not have it.

Todd Mayo has it, and, indeed, should continue to play 30 minutes a game, especially the last six to ten minutes of each half.

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[GGGG]

Wrong on so many levels.

Marquette basketball is a better basketball program with Todd Mayo on the court. It really is that simple.

The "bad Todd" thing is so exaggerated.

Really?  

So the 27 minutes with 4 points, 2 rebounds, 0 assists and two TOs against Butler was an exaggeration?

The 20 minutes with 2 points against Creighton is an exaggeration?

The 15 minutes with a -20 Roland Rating against Georgetown is an exaggeration?


Hmmm...  No.  Bad Todd is bad.

[GGGG]

Oh...and if were up to me I would start the following:

1. Derrick Wilson, but Dawson should get more than the 8 mpg he got yesterday
2. Todd Mayo
3. Jake Thomas
4. Jamil Wilson
5. Davante Gardner

I hate the Oxtule line up because it takes MU's best post player away from the basket.

[willie warrior]

Oh...and if were up to me I would start the following:

1. Derrick Wilson, but Dawson should get more than the 8 mpg he got yesterday
2. Todd Mayo
3. Jake Thomas
4. Jamil Wilson
5. Davante Gardner

I hate the Oxtule line up because it takes MU's best post player away from the basket.

Hey Sultan, I tend to agree, except the minutes split at PG should be about 20/20. Would not start Thomas, would go with Taylor over him, and Burton getting some minutes. Thomas splits time with Mayo, with Mayo getting 20 to 25 minutes. I too think Ox has to play too much away from the basket, but he has been pretty effective because it gives him more room to dribble/body his opponent to the basket. Would put him more down low and Taylor up high, because of his length.

[PGsHeroes32]

Really?  

So the 27 minutes with 4 points, 2 rebounds, 0 assists and two TOs against Butler was an exaggeration?

The 20 minutes with 2 points against Creighton is an exaggeration?

The 15 minutes with a -20 Roland Rating against Georgetown is an exaggeration?


Hmmm...  No.  Bad Todd is bad.

Creighton actually was a terrible game for Todd. But that was the outlier. If you seriously only use points for a guy of the bench to prove a point, you don't have a point.

crap, just yesterday the guy was 4-4 with two of those buckets being early in second half once nova was attempting to run away... And he barely saw the floor after that until the final minutes. It is literally night and day how much better we are with Todd playing.

If he was getting 30 minutes a game we are at least 14-6. And that doesn't include the two games we lost where he didn't play.

Ironic you quote my post and leave out the end....5 wins if Todd mayo is not with Marquette. That is not opinion. It's a fact.

[MU82]

5 wins if Todd mayo is not with Marquette. That is not opinion. It's a fact.

I agree with much of what you said earlier, but this is not a fact.

A fact is: Marquette wore pink uniforms yesterday. Or: Chicos loves Tom Crean. Or: I am bald.

Assigning a number to how many games we'd win without Mayo or how many games we'd have won if Mayo played more is not a fact.

[GGGG]

Creighton actually was a terrible game for Todd. But that was the outlier. If you seriously only use points for a guy of the bench to prove a point, you don't have a point.

LOL...whatever.

Believe what you want to believe.

[ATL MU Warrior]

LOL...whatever.

Believe what you want to believe.

This is pretty much all that can be said at this point.

[PGsHeroes32]

LOL...whatever.

Believe what you want to believe.

Seeing ain't believing

[NersEllenson]

Really?  

So the 27 minutes with 4 points, 2 rebounds, 0 assists and two TOs against Butler was an exaggeration?

The 20 minutes with 2 points against Creighton is an exaggeration?

The 15 minutes with a -20 Roland Rating against Georgetown is an exaggeration?


Hmmm...  No.  Bad Todd is bad.

Todd gets such a bad rap around here its funny to me...he's had a few off court issues and as a result some paint him with a bad brush.  Some would like him to smile more.  It's funny, because he and Vander - who you have been so complimentary of, and think was so brilliant last year - are basically the same player.  Granted, Todd hasn't punched anybody in the face off campus, but he didn't take care of business academically, and was late to practice...but he's just not a good guy/team player.  But on the court...he produces at the same/better rate than Vander Blue per minute last year...albeit with a much worse PG.  The numbers don't lie...it's a joke that he gets less minutes than Jake Thomas.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=todd-mayo&i=1&p1=vander-blue

[GGGG]

Todd gets such a bad rap around here its funny to me...he's had a few off court issues and as a result some paint him with a bad brush.  Some would like him to smile more.  It's funny, because he and Vander - who you have been so complimentary of, and think was so brilliant last year - are basically the same player.  Granted, Todd hasn't punched anybody in the face off campus, but he didn't take care of business academically, and was late to practice...but he's just not a good guy/team player.  But on the court...he produces at the same/better rate than Vander Blue per minute last year...albeit with a much worse PG.  The numbers don't lie...it's a joke that he gets less minutes than Jake Thomas.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=todd-mayo&i=1&p1=vander-blue

I'm not really mentioning any of his off court stuff...so I have no idea why you are bringing it up.  But the idea that "Bad Todd" is an exaggeration is just false.  He is wildly inconsistent even within games. 

And Todd isn't Vander.  Trying to say they are the same player really only weakens your argument.  Vander is a much better defender and a much more consistent player.

[Nevada233]

Oh...and if were up to me I would start the following:

1. Derrick Wilson, but Dawson should get more than the 8 mpg he got yesterday
2. Todd Mayo
3. Jake Thomas
4. Jamil Wilson
5. Davante Gardner

I hate the Oxtule line up because it takes MU's best post player away from the basket.

Dawson hit a 3 from the Consession stand. Then got benched. Lol.

[wadesworld]

 Todd is as good or better than Vander?  Dear lord.  Some people who think they know a lot about basketball are hopelessly clueless.

[MU82]

Todd gets such a bad rap around here its funny to me...he's had a few off court issues and as a result some paint him with a bad brush.  Some would like him to smile more.  It's funny, because he and Vander - who you have been so complimentary of, and think was so brilliant last year - are basically the same player.  Granted, Todd hasn't punched anybody in the face off campus, but he didn't take care of business academically, and was late to practice...but he's just not a good guy/team player.  But on the court...he produces at the same/better rate than Vander Blue per minute last year...albeit with a much worse PG.  The numbers don't lie...it's a joke that he gets less minutes than Jake Thomas.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=todd-mayo&i=1&p1=vander-blue

Ners: I have agreed with you about Derrick from the start and you make a lot of good points about other players, including some about Mayo. However, Mayo is no Vander. Just look at the consistency Vander had game-in, game-out last season. Even when Todd has been given good runs, as he has most of the conference season, he has been wildly inconsistent.

I'm not saying he lacks value and I'm not saying he should play less than Jake, because I'm with you on both of those things. And he obviously is the one guy who is willing and able to step up and hit a big shot. But he has displayed little evidence that he is in Vander's league as a consistent offensive weapon or a defensive player.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Ners: I have agreed with you about Derrick from the start and you make a lot of good points about other players, including some about Mayo. However, Mayo is no Vander. Just look at the consistency Vander had game-in, game-out last season. Even when Todd has been given good runs, as he has most of the conference season, he has been wildly inconsistent.

I'm not saying he lacks value and I'm not saying he should play less than Jake, because I'm with you on both of those things. And he obviously is the one guy who is willing and able to step up and hit a big shot. But he has displayed little evidence that he is in Vander's league as a consistent offensive weapon or a defensive player.

Todd Mayo is NOT as good as Vander.  That said, he should play at least 25-30 minutes a game as he is our most dynamic playmaker. 

[MattyWarrior]

Todd is a better all around offensive player than Vander. No Doubt!

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

TODD NEEDS MORE MINUTES PERIOD.  I'D RATHER LIVE AND DIE BY HIM AND HAVE A CHANCE THAN BE BEHIND THE 8-BALL EVERY GAME WITH OUR TWO STARTING GUARDS.  AND YES, I'M SHOUTING.  ITS RIDICULOUS!

The irony of this post coming from that username has not been lost on me.

[GGGG]

Todd is a better all around offensive player than Vander. No Doubt!

He *can* be...but oftentimes isn't.

[JakeBarnes]

I LIKE TALKING IN ALL CAPS TOO IN ORDER TO MAKE MY POINT SEEM MORE IMPORTANT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6oAQHROtzs (very related video. WATCH IT!!!!)

[forgetful]

He *can* be...but oftentimes isn't.

Todd is a lot like Buycks.  He plays best in a more unregulated offense like at the end of a shot clock or at the end of the game.  He plays a lot off emotion and feel.  That makes him very clutch, but in other parts of the game when it is more regimented he struggles.