Now What?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

My god again. We are 5 games into an 18 game conference schedule. We are a 2-3 in conference with two of those losses being two of our most brutal road games. And playing at Hinkle isn't easy either. I'm greatly disappointed in those who are willing to give up so early in the season. Have doubts? Sure. Be pessimistic? I can accept that. But to actually say give up on this season is pretty pathetic

[dgies9156]

My god again. We are 5 games into an 18 game conference schedule. We are a 2-3 in conference with two of those losses being two of our most brutal road games. And playing at Hinkle isn't easy either. I'm greatly disappointed in those who are willing to give up so early in the season. Have doubts? Sure. Be pessimistic? I can accept that. But to actually say give up on this season is pretty pathetic

What have you seen to suggest otherwise? I'm all eyes on this one!

[NersEllenson]

My god again. We are 5 games into an 18 game conference schedule. We are a 2-3 in conference with two of those losses being two of our most brutal road games. And playing at Hinkle isn't easy either. I'm greatly disappointed in those who are willing to give up so early in the season. Have doubts? Sure. Be pessimistic? I can accept that. But to actually say give up on this season is pretty pathetic

Yet DePaul was somehow able to beat Butler at Hinkle in OT.  DePaul just got drilled by 30 against Nova.  Our best wins for the year are George Washington (respectable), Seton Hall, and DePaul.  Do you see improvement in this team??  They don't appear to be trending the right way.  We just had a whole week of practice with no games....coming off XMas break with no class....and were desperate to win a game.  If there ever was a game we should have won - it was this one at 0-5 Butler.

I can appreciate your optimism TAMU - I generally am one with MU hoops as well - and used to catch hell here for being so optimistic.  Yet this year, I just don't see anything to be optimistic about until Buzz bites the bullet and rolls with Dawson, Burton and Mayo for 25+ per game.  Derrick and Jake getting nearly 30 minutes a game is a formula for disaster, which is what this season has been.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

What have you seen to suggest otherwise? I'm all eyes on this one!

I'm not sure what you mean by this. But I assume it's along the lines of how you can have any hope? Simple, 20-11 is what I see as the minimum record for us to get an at large bid. I have faith in my team because I am a fan, and that is what fans do. For me, the Brewers are going to win the Series every season until they are mathematically eliminated. Some may call that naive but I call it being a good fan. I could sit here and b!tch and moan about how our team isn't living up to our expectations but I'd rather be optimistic and think that my team is going to pull it together.

As far as I am concerned, Marquette is going 13-0 the rest of the season. I'll probably be wrong but I'd rather be the fan who was faithful to the end instead of wanting to ditch 5 games into the conference season

[Tums Festival]

The only way this team has a prayer of making the NCAA tourney is if the ghost of Dean Meminger shows up in a Derrick Wilson suit.

[4everwarriors]

Have him bring along Lucas, McNeil, Whitehead, and Rosie.

[keefe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uepFO4psgKE

Well played, John.

Another great line from Bluto: "Did we give up after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

The sky is presently filled with Messerschmitts and Stukas...

[Sunbelt15]

I'm not sure what you mean by this. But I assume it's along the lines of how you can have any hope? Simple, 20-11 is what I see as the minimum record for us to get an at large bid. I have faith in my team because I am a fan, and that is what fans do. For me, the Brewers are going to win the Series every season until they are mathematically eliminated. Some may call that naive but I call it being a good fan. I could sit here and b!tch and moan about how our team isn't living up to our expectations but I'd rather be optimistic and think that my team is going to pull it together.

As far as I am concerned, Marquette is going 13-0 the rest of the season. I'll probably be wrong but I'd rather be the fan who was faithful to the end instead of wanting to ditch 5 games into the conference season

Wow! Prefer fantasyland instead of realville. Ok...? At least I know why you have your point of view on Derrick now.

[dgies9156]

I'm not sure what you mean by this. But I assume it's along the lines of how you can have any hope? Simple, 20-11 is what I see as the minimum record for us to get an at large bid. I have faith in my team because I am a fan, and that is what fans do. For me, the Brewers are going to win the Series every season until they are mathematically eliminated.

Eagle, I appreciate your loyalty and I used to feel that way. Maybe this year I'm a bit jaundiced because I expected Todd Mayo to step up and make us ask, "Vander Who?" I didn't expect anyone to replace Junior but I hoped we would come close.

I have no hope because I think Jamil would rather shoot from Wauwatosa than drive the basket. Because neither Mayo, Jake or anyone else seems willing to penetrate and score. I see little senior leadership and a lot of excuses. Everytime we have a "must win," we have a "gee failed again moment."

If you see us going 13-0 the rest, wonderful. But remember, smoking that weed is still illegal in Wisconsin!

[NotAnAlum]

The only thing left to do is Pray!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2NXHrc080-E#t=0

[dgies9156]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2NXHrc080-E#t=0

St. Jude, Pray for Us.

[MU82]

What you would do or I would do is immaterial.

This just in: Buzz Williams is a coach, and coaches simply do not think along these lines.

I, for one, wouldn't want a coach to give up on a season with his team 2-3 and 13 conference games to play.

Of course, we are fans. And these sites are made just for this type of conversation. So go at it if it makes you feel better.

Just be aware that Buzz isn't gonna wake up tomorrow and say: "The season is lost. I'm playing for next year. Dawson, Burton and JJJ are starting against Georgetown; Derrick, Jake and Otule will be lucky to get 5 minutes each."

Not.

Gonna.

Happen.

[Eldon]

Good lord, I have no idea.

If I was Buzz, about the only thing I would do would be to bench my seniors and begin playing my core for next year. Get Steve Taylor Jr., some time if he is healthy, Play Jujuan, Deonte and maybe Todd a LOT. Give Juan enough time to see if he has it. Time for Jake and Jamal to have a seat.

To use a baseball analogy, we're at September 8 and we're 10 games out of first place with four teams in front of us. The season is a loss. Let's begin planning for next year and hope for something better.

I know that coaches dont think like this, but start dawson, burton, and maybe jjj so that they can work out the kinks before the BE tourney rolls around. We may still have a chance

[keefe]

What you would do or I would do is immaterial.

This just in: Buzz Williams is a coach, and coaches simply do not think along these lines.

I, for one, wouldn't want a coach to give up on a season with his team 2-3 and 13 conference games to play.

There was a song by REO Speedwagon from my days in Schroeder, Keep Pushin

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Wow! Prefer fantasyland instead of realville. Ok...? At least I know why you have your point of view on Derrick now.

Oh I am very aware of how terrible our team usually is. And I can list every one of Derrick's deficiencies in detail. I think he is the worst Marquette PG since we joined the Big East. Please, I'm not blind.

But I also have seen this team pull together. We demolished a very good George Washington team and have had some moments where we look unbeatable. If that team shows up,we could go 13-0.

I would rather hope that the team that played George Washington will show up and stay for the rest of the season. Probably not going to happen, but it could. And I know it is better for my  health. Plus, if we do go on a 13-0 run, I get the satisfaction of knowing that I never gave up on this team. What do the people who gave up on the team 5 games in get? Satisfaction for being right? That's fine, I guess, but your team still sucked all season. Who wants that kind of satisfaction?

[keefe]

Oh I am very aware of how terrible our team usually is. And I can list every one of Derrick's deficiencies in detail. I think he is the worst Marquette PG since we joined the Big East. Please, I'm not blind.

But I also have seen this team pull together. We demolished a very good George Washington team and have had some moments where we look unbeatable. If that team shows up,we could go 13-0.

I would rather hope that the team that played George Washington will show up and stay for the rest of the season. Probably not going to happen, but it could. And I know it is better for my  health. Plus, if we do go on a 13-0 run, I get the satisfaction of knowing that I never gave up on this team. What do the people who gave up on the team 5 games in get? Satisfaction for being right? That's fine, I guess, but your team still sucked all season. Who wants that kind of satisfaction?

Just as you overestimate this team's potential for this season I believe you seriously underestimate the loyalty of many of us here. I've been supporting this team since Larry McNeill's wife was slapping ushers in the stands.

[4everwarriors]

And as long as Andy Friedrich's been bangin' Terry Meeuwsen.

[dgies9156]

Just as you overestimate this team's potential for this season I believe you seriously underestimate the loyalty of many of us here. I've been supporting this team since Larry McNeill's wife was slapping ushers in the stands.

Thank you Keefe.

I've been following Marquette since I was in grade school in Tennessee in 1965. My Marquette roots span multiple generations and we were always indoctrinated in the goodness of our university and our basketball team.

I remember when Walt Frazier took us down in the NIT. Or the Cobb free throw. Or our guys getting roughed up in South Carolina by bigoted white dudes. Guess what, we got even in a very nasty but very needed fight. I was on campus when we won the national title and shocked into reality when we lost of Rubesville of Ohio a year later.

I watched us kill the University of Tennessee in the early 1970s and change that school's basketball forever. A year after we killed 'em, they recruited a street-baller named Bernard King and took us into double overtime before we won.

I stayed with 'em through the Dukiet era, through the Deane era and have introduced my children to the joys of MU basketball -- like my Dad before me. I rejoiced in the shock of last year's eventual win over Davidson and thought the Butler and Miami games were indicative of what we could be.

I want badly to be wrong on my feeling about this year's team -- like I was on Buzz a few years back. I want us in the NCAA and if we make it, I'll probably go. But I'm also realistic and of all the teams that I've seen since 1965, this one may be the most disappointing. It's sad to see so much talent go bad the way it has. It's sad to think that Jamil is another Bernard Toone, both of whom were among the biggest wasters of basketball talent ever.

I hope I am wrong about this year because I want to believe. I just don't!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Just as you overestimate this team's potential for this season I believe you seriously underestimate the loyalty of many of us here. I've been supporting this team since Larry McNeill's wife was slapping ushers in the stands.

I'm not underestimating anyone's loyalty. I know everyone here bleeds blue and gold. We are simply different kind of fans. I am forever the optimist despite knowing what limitations are team has. Others are the realists despite knowing what potential is there. Don't call me disillusioned and I won't call you fairweather