Duane Wilson to redshirt

[martyconlonontherun]

What plans would Buzz conceivably have for the 5th year on another player?  Said player would be a freshman in high school right now.  Of course Buzz is allowing him to redshirt, but it's not like it's some difficult decision on his part.

It was more along the line of people making it sound like it was completely Duane's decision. I'm just saying Buzz has a huge say in it no matter what and Buzz's interest aren't always in line with the player's. If Duane wasn't extremely talented and was more of Dawson type player, I don't think Buzz would be as happy filling up an extra year on the scholarship table.

Sounds like you think Buzz's life lessons and talk about the interest of the players is just a bunch of stuff for the press.

I don't.  I think if the player and family believe redshirting is in his best interest, Buzz would support him and not threaten to pull the scholarship. 

I do think people overstate the life lessons talks. You can't be a D-1 coach and make decisions to help the program succeed while completely looking in the best interest of individual players. Buzz doesn't magically sign Jamil the same day a player decommits. Buzz has goals for this program and will take on better players if necessary. Buzz is probably in the top quarter of least slimy D-1 coaches, but I still see plenty of "aww-shucks" salesman in him.

And buzz wouldn't be pulling a scholarship. He committed to 4 years and it is not up to the player to think he is guaranteed five.

[Hards Alumni]

It was more along the line of people making it sound like it was completely Duane's decision. I'm just saying Buzz has a huge say in it no matter what and Buzz's interest aren't always in line with the player's. If Duane wasn't extremely talented and was more of Dawson type player, I don't think Buzz would be as happy filling up an extra year on the scholarship table.
I do think people overstate the life lessons talks. You can't be a D-1 coach and make decisions to help the program succeed while completely looking in the best interest of individual players. Buzz doesn't magically sign Jamil the same day a player decommits. Buzz has goals for this program and will take on better players if necessary. Buzz is probably in the top quarter of least slimy D-1 coaches, but I still see plenty of "aww-shucks" salesman in him.

And buzz wouldn't be pulling a scholarship. He committed to 4 years and it is not up to the player to think he is guaranteed five.

As we've seen in the past, players are only guaranteed 1 year scholarships. 

[GGGG]

Why can't we put Jamil at the PG. At least he passes the ball inside. Might make OX play harder.
Lately, I think he looks lost.

Jamil had more minutes at PG against NM than in any other game.  Derrick only played 25 minutes.  That is pretty much the least I want to see him against major opponents.

[MarquetteDano]

So he's a 2 and through?  As opposed to a 3 and flee?  Not to mention a 4 and out the door?  

We won't discuss Otule.

Otule?  He's 6 and hitting the bricks!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Looks like 2017 will be sporting a starting lineup of (assuming no early declarations or transfers):

1) Duane Wilson
2) Ahmed Hill
3) Sandy Cohen
4) Marial Shayok
5) Satchel Pierce

First off bench:
Malek Harris
Nick Noskowiak
Phillip Flory

To have a vague idea of who your 2017 starting lineup and rotation is in 2013 is pretty awesome. Solid recruiting by Buzz and team

[willie warrior]

I don't know if you can make that statement.  I could just as easily say that being 7-5 made this decision a lot tougher.  At 10-2 or 9-3, we are having a successful season with a great chance of making the tournament without Duane so why rush him onto the court when he is not needed.  Redshirt him and you get 4 years.

At 7-5 and a huge weakness at the pg position, if Duane is as good as advertised, he could turn our weakness into a strength and be hitting his stride at the end of the year when we might need that extra push to get us into the tournament.  It makes that decision to redshirt a lot tougher.

Its obvious that he is not ready to make a contribution any time soon and might have even had a setback if they are declaring him a redshirt before conference play begins.

How do you know it is obvious he is not ready to make a contribution any time soon. Who told you that?
It must be Buzz who we all know is a straight shooter. Lots here we are not hearing, but nothing to see here.

[tower912]

What exactly do you need to hear?    You spent many posts asking to hear something.   Now there is closure.   Nowhere is it written that anyone needs to give a reason.   A freshman, (who doesn't actually need any reason to redshirt), who suffered a stress fracture in his hip, fell way behind on his conditioning and understanding the offense and defense, presumably after consultation with his family and his coaches, has elected to use his redshirt.   It isn't even necessarily a medical redshirt.   A conspiracy exists only in the 6 inch space between your ears.  Unless you have some incontrovertible inside knowledge you aren't sharing. 

[ATWizJr]

How do you know it is obvious he is not ready to make a contribution any time soon. Who told you that?
It must be Buzz who we all know is a straight shooter. Lots here we are not hearing, but nothing to see here.

Lots here that we are not hearing?  Like what?

[RushmoreAcademy]

Looks like 2017 will be sporting a starting lineup of (assuming no early declarations or transfers):

1) Duane Wilson
2) Ahmed Hill
3) Sandy Cohen
4) Marial Shayok
5) Satchel Pierce

First off bench:
Malek Harris
Nick Noskowiak
Phillip Flory

To have a vague idea of who your 2017 starting lineup and rotation is in 2013 is pretty awesome. Solid recruiting by Buzz and team

Now there's a man who can see the big picture!   I can't see past lunch, so it's good to have the opposite end of the spectrum brightening up my MU viewing future.
Must have been a really tough decision for Duane. Will be happy to see him coming out at full strength to start next season.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Lots here that we are not hearing?  Like what?

The voices inside willie's head

[willie warrior]

Lots here that we are not hearing?  Like what?

If you think this story is as simple as the Kid realized he could not contribute/play this year, good for you. In Buzz you trust.

[willie warrior]

Looks like 2017 will be sporting a starting lineup of (assuming no early declarations or transfers):

1) Duane Wilson
2) Ahmed Hill
3) Sandy Cohen
4) Marial Shayok
5) Satchel Pierce

First off bench:
Malek Harris
Nick Noskowiak
Phillip Flory

To have a vague idea of who your 2017 starting lineup and rotation is in 2013 is pretty awesome. Solid recruiting by Buzz and team

Yup--the lineup 4 years down the road looks awesome. Now that is something to look forward to--not so much the current year.

[bilsu]

I think red-shirting is the smart thing to do. I am not sure why people think he would make that much difference? JJJ and Burton were higher rated and if both of them also got hurt, we probably would still be 7-5. A healthy Dauane from the start would of been nice, but to think he would of had a biiger impact on our record than JJJ or Burton is just wishful thinking.

[Lennys Tap]

Yup--the lineup 4 years down the road looks awesome. Now that is something to look forward to--not so much the current year.

Awesome or not, you'll be bitching. It's what you do. Last year we weren't a top 40 team entering the season. We won the Big East Conference Championship, went to the Elite Eight and finished in the top 10. And you still pretty much bitched your way through the season.

[Wojo'sMojo]

I think red-shirting is the smart thing to do. I am not sure why people think he would make that much difference? JJJ and Burton were higher rated and if both of them also got hurt, we probably would still be 7-5. A healthy Dauane from the start would of been nice, but to think he would of had a biiger impact on our record than JJJ or Burton is just wishful thinking.

He would have had a bigger impact due to the position he plays. Pg is our weakest position and any contribution by him would have helped.

[GGGG]

If you think this story is as simple as the Kid realized he could not contribute/play this year, good for you. In Buzz you trust.

What else do you think the story could conceivably be? 

[Markusquette]

Duane was in uniform last night, wasn't he?  While the players were doing some strange ritual before the game, I saw him in the huddle with the guys goofing around.  Of course Buzz/staff wants to keep him involved as much as possible.  Is it common for all redshirt players to suit up/warm up every game?

[keefe]

the players were doing some strange ritual before the game

Strange ritual?? What the hell were they doing?