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4everwarriors

Rather than goin' one on one in the NBA, I think the 3 on 1 or 4 on 1 is the preferred method to attack the hole.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

martyconlonontherun

Quote from: willie warrior on July 05, 2013, 11:56:06 AM
Not buying that Slick Rick has that great a rep. Yeah, he is a good coach, but his little dalliance at Porcini's doesn't help. Wonder if he learned that move while in the NBA?
I meant as a coach and recruiter. That's like saying Jordan doesn't have a great reputation because he was a gambler and an adulterer. Unfortunately, 99% of fans. media, and college basketball people couldn't care less about the incident. The only reason this board cares is because we were rivals and it was an easy target.

keefe

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 05, 2013, 12:09:59 PM
Rather than goin' one on one in the NBA, I think the 3 on 1 or 4 on 1 is the preferred method to attack the hole.

Well, don't forget to give credit to some of the great penetrators in NBA history. Looks like Calvin Murphy, "The Pocket Rocket," set the pace for scoring but Seattle's own "Reign Man" might actually have showered his love on more adoring fans if the rumors of his prowess are to be believed.

http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/06/big-poppa-the-athletes-with-the-most-children-by-the-most-women/calvin-murphy


Death on call



Nukem2

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 06, 2013, 10:29:19 AM
bingo
The other factor that plays in here is that Stevens leaves Butler without "stiffing" the Bulldogs by leaving for another school.  If the NBA does not pan out for him ( which is very possible/likely ), he can get that other high-high major college job  without leaving Butler feeling bad.  In the meantime, all the Celtics $$$$$$$$$$ will leave Brad and his family in financial heaven. So, he could be successful in the NBA or go back to the NCAA ala Pitino and not "stiff" Butler ( though they surely are very apprehensive about his departure ).  Not bad for a 36 year old guy.

GGGG

Quote from: Nukem2 on July 06, 2013, 10:42:05 AM
The other factor that plays in here is that Stevens leaves Butler without "stiffing" the Bulldogs by leaving for another school.  If the NBA does not pan out for him ( which is very possible/likely ), he can get that other high-high major college job  without leaving Butler feeling bad.  In the meantime, all the Celtics $$$$$$$$$$ will leave Brad and his family in financial heaven. So, he could be successful in the NBA or go back to the NCAA ala Pitino and not "stiff" Butler ( though they surely are very apprehensive about his departure ).  Not bad for a 36 year old guy.


The three coaches previous to Stevens, including the current athletic director, all "stiffed" Butler for other schools.  (Collier to Nebraska...Matta to Xavier...Licklighter to Iowa.)  I'm sure they are above "feeling bad" about such moves.

GGGG

Quote from: willie warrior on July 05, 2013, 11:56:06 AM
Not buying that Slick Rick has that great a rep. Yeah, he is a good coach, but his little dalliance at Porcini's doesn't help. Wonder if he learned that move while in the NBA?


You don't think Pitino has a great reputation?  You're nuts.

You may not like him, but recruits do...former players do...media does...other coaches seem to...

Nukem2

Quote from: Terror Skink on July 06, 2013, 10:49:37 AM

The three coaches previous to Stevens, including the current athletic director, all "stiffed" Butler for other schools.  (Collier to Nebraska...Matta to Xavier...Licklighter to Iowa.)  I'm sure they are above "feeling bad" about such moves.
Not what I said.  Its about Stevens not feeling guilty about leaving.  If things go sour for him in the NBA (which they probably will), he can get that marquee college job without directly leaving Butler for that job.

GGGG

Quote from: Nukem2 on July 06, 2013, 12:41:39 PM
Not what I said.  Its about Stevens not feeling guilty about leaving.  If things go sour for him in the NBA (which they probably will), he can get that marquee college job without directly leaving Butler for that job.

Actually that is pretty much exactly what you sad:

"The other factor that plays in here is that Stevens leaves Butler without "stiffing" the Bulldogs by leaving for another school.  If the NBA does not pan out for him ( which is very possible/likely ), he can get that other high-high major college job  without leaving Butler feeling bad."

Nowhere do I see anything from Steven's point of view, including any guilt that he might have.


Nukem2

Quote from: Terror Skink on July 06, 2013, 12:47:32 PM
Actually that is pretty much exactly what you sad:

"The other factor that plays in here is that Stevens leaves Butler without "stiffing" the Bulldogs by leaving for another school.  If the NBA does not pan out for him ( which is very possible/likely ), he can get that other high-high major college job  without leaving Butler feeling bad."

Nowhere do I see anything from Steven's point of view, including any guilt that he might have.


Actually I said both.  But, what I was trying to say (poorly) is that the Boston job gave Stevens an easy (and very lucrative ) way out of Butler without any "guilt" or qualms on either side.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

The other potential ripple effect from this is the solidification of VCU as the Big East's next addition. Arguably one of the best qualities of the BEast is the talented young coaches. Williams, Stevens, Wright, JT3, Mack, Lavin and to a less extent McDermott and Cooley are some of the biggest up and comers. They could easily be the next age of Pitinos, Boeheims, and Coach Ks. Stevens was arguably the biggest of those names. The BEast would be wise to replace Stevens with another dominant young coach....Enter Shaka Smart.

VCU and one other (c'mon Zags!) will be in the BEast next season
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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Analytical Eagle on July 07, 2013, 02:49:15 AM
The other potential ripple effect from this is the solidification of VCU as the Big East's next addition. Arguably one of the best qualities of the BEast is the talented young coaches. Williams, Stevens, Wright, JT3, Mack, Lavin and to a less extent McDermott and Cooley are some of the biggest up and comers. They could easily be the next age of Pitinos, Boeheims, and Coach Ks. Stevens was arguably the biggest of those names. The BEast would be wise to replace Stevens with another dominant young coach....Enter Shaka Smart.

VCU and one other (c'mon Zags!) will be in the BEast next season

unlikely on Zags

keefe



Death on call

real chili 83

Here's an article from the Fort Wayne paper (reprinted in SB Trib) on how the move to the BE will be good for recruiting for Butler.  Lots of quotes from Stevens.  Note the date of the article, July 3rd.

http://www.southbendtribune.com/sports/college/basketball/article_c193a82c-e3c2-11e2-96be-001a4bcf6878.html

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: keefe on July 07, 2013, 05:10:27 AM
Again with the hate...

No hate....distance reality. 

Honestly, I would be surprised on VCU as well, though much less so.

MileHigh

For those outside the Indy area, this is a good read in the INDYSTAR today about Butler and Brad Stevens.

http://www.indystar.com/section/exclusive07

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: INDYWarrior on October 25, 2013, 12:23:53 PM
For those outside the Indy area, this is a good read in the INDYSTAR today about Butler and Brad Stevens.

http://www.indystar.com/section/exclusive07


Some grade A shark chum right there.

An excellen read to boot.

77ncaachamps

Quote from: Jajuannaman on October 25, 2013, 12:49:22 PM
Some grade A shark chum right there.

An excellen read to boot.

Kinda like Crean on April Fools Day.

Stunned. Disbelief. Haziness and doubt about the program immediately afterward.

Glad Roosevelt wan't getting a tattoo of his coach.
SS Marquette

keefe

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 25, 2013, 05:42:47 PM
Kinda like Crean on April Fools Day.

Stunned. Disbelief. Haziness and doubt about the program immediately afterward.

Glad Roosevelt wan't getting a tattoo of his coach.

Unlike Crean, Stevens respected his employer, colleagues, and players enough to extend the dignity of personally communicating the news. Fr. Wild is still waiting for Crean to meet with him, much less pick up the phone.

Meanwhile, Crean has the nerve to attack Jeff Meyer publicly for imagined slights. Perhaps The Bronzed Beast should consider his own character flaws before he begins flinging turds.


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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: keefe on October 25, 2013, 06:07:35 PM
Unlike Crean, Stevens respected his employer, colleagues, and players enough to extend the dignity of personally communicating the news. Fr. Wild is still waiting for Crean to meet with him, much less pick up the phone.

Meanwhile, Crean has the nerve to attack Jeff Meyer publicly for imagined slights. Perhaps The Bronzed Beast should consider his own character flaws before he begins flinging turds.

Actually if you read what Father Wild said they talked.  No one liked how it went down, including Father Wild (nor should he be happy about it), but they most certainly talked.  A couple of articles in the JS that indicate it quite clearly.  (....awaiting the WHY DO YOU DEFEND HIM brigade.....just providing the facts)

"We talked," Wild said. "He had given us nine great years, and there was no great basis for being upset. At some point he had to make a career decision.

"But the how of it, how he basically didn't talk to anybody, that was a problem," Wild added. "And I said that clearly. The end game was definitely not the way to do things. And I must say, it was not characteristic of the man as I dealt with him over the years."

Crean has expressed regret how word leaked out that he was leaving."


Jeff Meyer is a douche, so is TC.  They deserve each other.

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