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reinko

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 27, 2012, 02:04:01 PM

What makes you think this?  We have had multiple people permanently paralyzed and it hasn't done a thing.  We have had former players kill themselves and it hasn't done a thing.  We are coming off the two latest Super Bowls being the two highest television programs of all time, and the upcoming college championship will likely be the highest rated college football game in history.

Honestly, I don't think Tom Brady's death during the Super Bowl would prevent people from watching the next year.

I can see the day where high schools stop offering it and it moves to a club-style sport.  But that day is a long time away IMO.

Much like most things in our world, things are a bigger deal in this day and age because of the media and how closely connected human beings are.  While I don't think it will be any one incident that would ban football, but most likely a series of horrific injuries at all levels that will make school districts, pop warner leagues, smaller colleges, and eventually larger schools, and one day (IMHO) the NFL will need to DRASTICALLY change how they operate.  I have read that middle school FB players have generally strength and athleticism high school kids had 25 years ago, high school kids now move like D-1 kids did, and now D-1 and NFL players are moving and have the strength no one imagined 30 years ago, and really it's just a matter of time for whatever football 2.0 will be.

I use the boxing analogy as the way I think football become.  Boxing was the sport in this national for 40+ years, and our country starting moving away from the sport in late 80's to mid 90's (for a variety of reasons, just not the violence) but the quality fell off, amongst other reasons our society eventually saw that it might be a bit too violent, and now we have what we have today.  Boring ass Olympic boxing where dudes are in pads head to toe, washed up 40 year olds pummeling each for paychecks, and a handful of elite fighters.  Again, all in states that have to be sanctioned, and have the proper permits, insurance... 

For the future of football, you will have, the "amateurs", so I watered down, overally protected, not much hitting...then maybe elite college or semi-pro or whatever, then some version of the NFL, most likely smaller, still catering to folks who want to see people get popped on a weekly basis. 

Don't get me wrong, I love football, and love the way it is, wish it was safer for the players, but our nation is generally moving in other directions than high risk activities subsided by tax payers and fans wallets.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: reinko on November 27, 2012, 03:25:33 PM
Much like most things in our world, things are a bigger deal in this day and age because of the media and how closely connected human beings are.  While I don't think it will be any one incident that would ban football, but most likely a series of horrific injuries at all levels that will make school districts, pop warner leagues, smaller colleges, and eventually larger schools, and one day (IMHO) the NFL will need to DRASTICALLY change how they operate.  I have read that middle school FB players have generally strength and athleticism high school kids had 25 years ago, high school kids now move like D-1 kids did, and now D-1 and NFL players are moving and have the strength no one imagined 30 years ago, and really it's just a matter of time for whatever football 2.0 will be.

I use the boxing analogy as the way I think football become.  Boxing was the sport in this national for 40+ years, and our country starting moving away from the sport in late 80's to mid 90's (for a variety of reasons, just not the violence) but the quality fell off, amongst other reasons our society eventually saw that it might be a bit too violent, and now we have what we have today.  Boring ass Olympic boxing where dudes are in pads head to toe, washed up 40 year olds pummeling each for paychecks, and a handful of elite fighters.  Again, all in states that have to be sanctioned, and have the proper permits, insurance... 

For the future of football, you will have, the "amateurs", so I watered down, overally protected, not much hitting...then maybe elite college or semi-pro or whatever, then some version of the NFL, most likely smaller, still catering to folks who want to see people get popped on a weekly basis. 

Don't get me wrong, I love football, and love the way it is, wish it was safer for the players, but our nation is generally moving in other directions than high risk activities subsided by tax payers and fans wallets.


I can't remember where I have read this before...

reinko

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 27, 2012, 03:31:36 PM
I can't remember where I have read this before...

Am I missing something??

Hards Alumni

Quote from: reinko on November 27, 2012, 03:33:36 PM
Am I missing something??

No, I'm being honest... I really can't remember... was it Simmons?  Was it a 30 for 30?

reinko

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 27, 2012, 03:43:28 PM
No, I'm being honest... I really can't remember... was it Simmons?  Was it a 30 for 30?

Gotcha...can't imagine mine is an original idea, most likely gleaned from those, and other articles...

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 27, 2012, 03:43:28 PM
No, I'm being honest... I really can't remember... was it Simmons?  Was it a 30 for 30?

maybe this?

start here and read down

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32449.msg391365#msg391365

reinko


ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: ringout on November 27, 2012, 11:34:30 AM
Chicos behaved for what, a couple of weeks?

How have I misbehaved?

ChicosBailBonds

A bit of Marquette trivia for you.

Did you know that Marquette started their final season 3-1 before finishing the season 3-6?

Marquette's last victory ever was 13-12 over Boston College in 1960

The final game MU played was a 33-13 loss to Cincinnati

MU finished with all-time series wins against:
Arizona 6-4
Auburn 1-0
Iowa State 8-2-1
Kansas 4-0
Kansas State 7-6


Other tidbits:
MU went 0-3-3 against Notre Dame
4-32 vs Wisconsin
6-18-1 vs Michigan State
0-0-1 vs Illinois
0-6 vs Indiana
6-6-1 vs Boston College
0-1 vs Army
1-1 vs Iowa
0-1 vs Miami (FL)
3-2 vs Ole Miss
1-1 vs Navy
0-2 vs Northwestern
0-1 vs Oklahoma
1-2 vs Oklahoma State
0-2 vs Penn State
0-3 vs Pitt
0-5 vs Purdue
4-6 vs UW-milwaukee

First participant in the Cotton Bowl, 16-6 loss to TCU and Sammy Baugh

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