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Quote from: BCHoopster on September 25, 2012, 12:37:13 AM
Besides being aggressive to the ball, which he does, I think I only saw him make a few lay-ups last year, can he shot the ball?  I think he has the same distance that Pat Smith had
under Al, you can only shot lay-ups.  As a senior in high school, he looked like he had an offensive game, did Buzz ruin it, his video looked liked he could shot the three, the next year
no way, what happens after high school, they lose there confidence?
They may lose confidence, but that is because of the step up in competition. At 6'6" Juan was big in high school. Just like Vander who athletically was way above most high school players. Now Vander is slightly above average athletically and has to learn to adjust offensively. I think the hardest thing to project about a player is how he will adapt to the college game. Some players have a hard time adjusting to the higher competition level. Others, like Gardner just seem to adapt. How could anyone guess that Gardner at 330 lbs in high school would have any success as a freshmen in college? I believe (hoping) that Taylor is the same as Gardner. I think both were underrated, because rankings have no way to measure adaptability. Gardner and Taylor(?) are adapters that can step up against tougher competition, while players like Eric Williams and Jamail Jones did not. Juan has been unlucky so far, so it is hard to tell if he can adapt his game to the college level. I like his attitude, so I have high hopes for him taking his game up a few notches.

BCHoopster

Quote from: bilsu on September 25, 2012, 09:41:01 AM
They may lose confidence, but that is because of the step up in competition. At 6'6" Juan was big in high school. Just like Vander who athletically was way above most high school players. Now Vander is slightly above average athletically and has to learn to adjust offensively. I think the hardest thing to project about a player is how he will adapt to the college game. Some players have a hard time adjusting to the higher competition level. Others, like Gardner just seem to adapt. How could anyone guess that Gardner at 330 lbs in high school would have any success as a freshmen in college? I believe (hoping) that Taylor is the same as Gardner. I think both were underrated, because rankings have no way to measure adaptability. Gardner and Taylor(?) are adapters that can step up against tougher competition, while players like Eric Williams and Jamail Jones did not. Juan has been unlucky so far, so it is hard to tell if he can adapt his game to the college level. I like his attitude, so I have high hopes for him taking his game up a few notches.

I hope you are right, but if there is no PT time for him, I hope he red-shirts.  Every summer these kids lose is critical to there development, if he has any talent hope he does waste this
year on the pine

bilsu

I also think he should redshirt. He is more likely to get reinjure if they rush him back.

GGGG

I'm of the opinion that it is only in very rare circumstances that you redshirt a basketball player.  We only have 11 scholarship players not named Jake Thomas on this team.  A couple injuries and you are going to need Juan.  And yeah I understand that a redshirt can be yanked at any time, but I don't think that mentally prepares you well enough.  I really doubt a healthy Juan is redshirted.

bilsu

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 26, 2012, 08:23:14 AM
I'm of the opinion that it is only in very rare circumstances that you redshirt a basketball player.  We only have 11 scholarship players not named Jake Thomas on this team.  A couple injuries and you are going to need Juan.  And yeah I understand that a redshirt can be yanked at any time, but I don't think that mentally prepares you well enough.  I really doubt a healthy Juan is redshirted.
The question is when Juan is healthy enough to contribute? The same question for Otule? The early 9 game November schedule is not good for either of them.

GGGG

Well since Juan was "cleared" I would think he would be healthy enough.  The real question is that by missing an entire summer and fall if he is going to be strong enough, and in game shape to contribute.  That is a question that might not be able to be answered right away.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 26, 2012, 08:23:14 AM
I'm of the opinion that it is only in very rare circumstances that you redshirt a basketball player.  We only have 11 scholarship players not named Jake Thomas on this team.  A couple injuries and you are going to need Juan.  And yeah I understand that a redshirt can be yanked at any time, but I don't think that mentally prepares you well enough.  I really doubt a healthy Juan is redshirted.

Sultan, you're forgetting that when a player redshirts, he returns as a stronger, faster, more skilled basketball player and about 50% of the time he grows 2-3". Juan is just a redshirt away from being the next MKG.

There's no reason to redshirt a player who's healthy enough to play 6 weeks before the season starts. If he's been cleared but won't be healthy for more than 6 weeks then MU needs a new medical staff. Missing the offseason hurts no doubt, but Juan has a chance to be a contributor this season, especially down the stretch (i.e when it matters the most). He obviously needs to get stronger but his main issue last season was the speed of the game and the fact that he needed to think too much. This season he should be more relaxed and comfortable on the floor.

GGGG

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on September 26, 2012, 09:00:18 AM
Sultan, you're forgetting that when a player redshirts, he returns as a stronger, faster, more skilled basketball player and about 50% of the time he grows 2-3". Juan is just a redshirt away from being the next MKG.


Heh.  Exactly.  That is what turned J.P. Gavinski into Shaquille O'Neal and is going to turn Evan Anderson into Kevin Garnett.

4everwarriors

Wow, I'll have some of that brew that turns traditionals into brothers.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 26, 2012, 09:24:21 AM
Wow, I'll have some of that brew that turns traditionals into brothers.

Why, are you tired of being a traditional?

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