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wadesworld

Quote from: CaptainAwesome on August 10, 2012, 06:27:47 PM
So it's one of those two then...?

Here I was gonna say that Aki was looking to extend Cal's legacy at Memphis

A recruit who was on the roster a few weeks ago, or one that's still on the roster...?

A recruit who is currently on the roster. As far as I know (and I don't know much, I had just heard rumors which are apparently true - but it's one of those friend's dad's friend who has the inside scoop) it was nothing big but one of the two assistant coaches who left MU this offseason had a recruiting violation at MU while recruiting someone who ended up at MU and the NCAA was looking around.

GGGG

Quote from: wadesworld on August 10, 2012, 04:42:29 PM
I heard that the NCAA was "snooping around the program" over 2 weeks ago. Heard there may have been a recruiting violation made by a coach who has since departed to a recruit who is now on the roster. The news was out.


OK, thanks for that.  That actually makes me feel better.

forgetful


Benny B

If I were the AD, I would notify the JS of a violation.  Then I'd let the speculation run rampant for a few days, maybe a week, and let people make big names for themselves speculating about how terrible the violation was and citing their "unnamed" sources... eventually hoping that maybe a beer bottle assault rumor would get going. Then I'd let the NCAA report that the self-reported violation was for text messages, but since the rules were changed to allow text messaging, it doesn't constitute a violation.

Then I'd invite Buzz over for a beer, sit back and share a laugh watching everyone who made asses out of themselves fabricating stories about the MUBB program try to talk their way out of how their "sources" let them down.

That's probably why I'll never be an AD.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

The Process

Quote from: forgetful on August 10, 2012, 08:47:32 PM
Those aren't the only coaches who left.

Well that's why I asked the question.  If it's not one of those two, the process of elimination kicks in a little more, right? ;D

Quote from: Benny B on August 10, 2012, 09:25:08 PM
Then I'd invite Buzz over for a beer, sit back and share a laugh watching everyone who made asses out of themselves fabricating stories about the MUBB program try to talk their way out of how their "sources" let them down.

I thought only Chico-loop had beer summits...
Relax. Respect the Process.

KenoshaWarrior

Quote from: wadesworld on August 10, 2012, 07:49:39 PM
A recruit who is currently on the roster. As far as I know (and I don't know much, I had just heard rumors which are apparently true - but it's one of those friend's dad's friend who has the inside scoop) it was nothing big but one of the two assistant coaches who left MU this offseason had a recruiting violation at MU while recruiting someone who ended up at MU and the NCAA was looking around.

This is exactly what happened.  It involves a coach giving away an article of clothing.  It is about 1/100th as worse as the Shoe Box scandal IMHO

Benny B

Quote from: CaptainAwesome on August 10, 2012, 09:38:40 PM


I thought only Chico-loop had beer summits...

Meh... It's not really a summit when you're both in on it.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

wadesworld

Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on August 10, 2012, 09:51:34 PM
This is exactly what happened.  It involves a coach giving away an article of clothing.  It is about 1/100th as worse as the Shoe Box scandal IMHO

That is what I heard as well.

Pakuni

I think people are assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that LW went to Don Walker or anyone else with this. Call this educated speculation, but a possible chronology here is that someone in the media, perhaps even Walker, gets tipped off that the NCAA is sniffing around and/or MU has self-reported and calls the school for comment. At this point, LW has one of two options: lie and hope he can get away with it, or be honest and try to get out front of the story as much as possible. Looks like he (wisely) chose the latter.

Regardless, it's hardly unprecedented for a school to publicize that it's self-reporting possible secondary violations. A simple Google search will show you that schools that have done so in recent years include: Ohio State, Georgia, Clemson, Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, Michigan, Cincinnati, Notre Dame, Alabama, Oklahoma, Kansas State, Baylor and Syracuse, among others.
Again, these are all instances in which the schools publicized the potential violations on their own.
So if you think LW is doing something untoward or unusual here, you've either got your head buried deep in the sand or are being willfully obtuse because it serves your chosen narrative.

MUfan12

Quote from: Pakuni on August 10, 2012, 11:33:13 PM
I think people are assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that LW went to Don Walker or anyone else with this. Call this educated speculation, but a possible chronology here is that someone in the media, perhaps even Walker, gets tipped off that the NCAA is sniffing around and/or MU has self-reported and calls the school for comment. At this point, LW has one of two options: lie and hope he can get away with it, or be honest and try to get out front of the story as much as possible. Looks like he (wisely) chose the latter.

That could very well be. Then why wasn't this "minor" violation characterized that way in the JS piece? Either LW left that part out, or Walker hid it.

The way it was worded in the article was not a good example of getting ahead of the story, that's for sure.

Pakuni

Quote from: MUfan12 on August 11, 2012, 12:24:50 AM
That could very well be. Then why wasn't this "minor" violation characterized that way in the JS piece? Either LW left that part out, or Walker hid it.

The way it was worded in the article was not a good example of getting ahead of the story, that's for sure.

Perhaps it's not so minor. Perhaps the NCAA isn't a fan of schools making those determinations for them. Perhaps Walker left it out. Perhaps people are trying way too hard to find conspiracy where none exists.u

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Quote from: Benny B on August 10, 2012, 10:16:39 PM
Meh... It's not really a summit when you're both in on it.

In his mind, both were present.  ::)

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Pakuni on August 10, 2012, 11:33:13 PM
I think people are assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that LW went to Don Walker or anyone else with this. Call this educated speculation, but a possible chronology here is that someone in the media, perhaps even Walker, gets tipped off that the NCAA is sniffing around and/or MU has self-reported and calls the school for comment. At this point, LW has one of two options: lie and hope he can get away with it, or be honest and try to get out front of the story as much as possible. Looks like he (wisely) chose the latter.

Regardless, it's hardly unprecedented for a school to publicize that it's self-reporting possible secondary violations. A simple Google search will show you that schools that have done so in recent years include: Ohio State, Georgia, Clemson, Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, Michigan, Cincinnati, Notre Dame, Alabama, Oklahoma, Kansas State, Baylor and Syracuse, among others.
Again, these are all instances in which the schools publicized the potential violations on their own.
So if you think LW is doing something untoward or unusual here, you've either got your head buried deep in the sand or are being willfully obtuse because it serves your chosen narrative.
Why does it take until page three for someone to take a reasonable stance on this? 

lab_warrior

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on August 11, 2012, 07:29:39 AM
Why does it take until page three for someone to take a reasonable stance on this? 

Because when you have a pre-conceived, pre-packaged narrative of a grand conspiracy, it's easy to just shoehorn the details in and around that storyline.

There's always a little bit more blood to squeeze out of the turnip. 


Jay Bee

Pretty dumb.  The material isn't even that good (so says ZFB, who has an XS pair that chaffed him badly).  Probably worth all of $5.

I still would like to know who MU released a statement to?  General media distribution list?  

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