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Dear Marquette alumni,

On Sunday I had the pleasure of participating in Marquette University's 131st spring commencement exercises. My first Marquette commencement struck me as memorable in a number of ways.

In a Bradley Center filled with pride, the university community honored 2,435 graduating members of the Class of 2012 and sent them into the world as sons and daughters of Marquette forever. The event was graced by the presence of two recipients of honorary degrees — Sister Miguel Conway and Henry Aaron — whose lives of dignity and transformative impact make them excellent role models for our graduates as living illustrations of the university's highest ideals. Returning to a city where he broke into the Major Leagues, helped to integrate professional sports, and hit the last of his legendary 755 home runs, Henry Aaron gave a wonderful keynote address. Marquette has "become interwoven in the wonderful memories that I have of Milwaukee and the people of Wisconsin," he said. "I can never forget that here I found acceptance, encouragement, self-confidence, and lifelong friends." To view additional information about commencement, click here.

From our most recent graduates to our most senior alumni, our graduates are Marquette's legacy. As members of the Class of 2012 make the leap from campus to the communities where they will make their lives, I urge you to welcome them with open arms into the family of Marquette alumni worldwide. If you know a new Marquette graduate, or meet one in the coming months, please show him or her the kind of care that is the specialty of the Marquette family.

As I conclude an exciting first year at Marquette, it couldn't be more clear to me that your enduring ties as a passionate and engaged alumni community are one of this university's distinct advantages. You truly do represent Marquette through all your days. Thank you for everything you do to bring credit to your alma mater and to help fulfill Marquette's mission throughout the world.


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Canadian Dimes

With all this Hiroshima BS that has been going on it makes one wonder why the integrity of larry n pilarz is held in such regard.  I have met both n had conversations with both,  very intelligent n high character people , as one would expect.  Dehumanizing them n ripping them on an internet forum can be easy when it feeds a posters paranoia

ATWizJr

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Lennys Tap

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on May 25, 2012, 06:36:36 AM
With all this Hiroshima BS that has been going on it makes one wonder why the integrity of larry n pilarz is held in such regard.  I have met both n had conversations with both,  very intelligent n high character people , as one would expect.  Dehumanizing them n ripping them on an internet forum can be easy when it feeds a posters paranoia

For me at least the character, intelligence and letter writing skills of Fr Pilarz and L Williams are not in question. Unfortunately, high character, intelligent guys who can write a nice letter can also be shortsighted and make poor decisions. That's my concern, and if any of the rumors being discussed are true I think that concern is legitimate.

brewcity77

Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 25, 2012, 09:26:28 AM
For me at least the character, intelligence and letter writing skills of Fr Pilarz and L Williams are not in question. Unfortunately, high character, intelligent guys who can write a nice letter can also be shortsighted and make poor decisions. That's my concern, and if any of the rumors being discussed are true I think that concern is legitimate.

+1

Couldn't have said it any better. It's worth at least giving a little time to see how this stuff plays out before decisively saying all is clear or Hiroshima is upon us. I would be very disappointed if the rumors came true and it either impacted current players or our future recruiting pool.

madtownwarrior

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Quote from: Canadian Dimes on May 25, 2012, 06:36:36 AM
With all this Hiroshima BS that has been going on it makes one wonder why the integrity of larry n pilarz is held in such regard.  I have met both n had conversations with both,  very intelligent n high character people , as one would expect.  Dehumanizing them n ripping them on an internet forum can be easy when it feeds a posters paranoia

That's the part I really hate about this board - suddenly it became an Internet (or really MUSCOOP)  fact that Pilarz and Williams are evil, out to destroy MU basketball as we know, turn us into SLU with 90% of us not caring, trying and failing to become the next Notre Dame, running Buzz out of town, making life difficult for Buzz, had Buzz interviewing in Dallas, Buzz would have taken the job if the SMU president had liked him (my personal favorite next to becoming SLU), setting high academic standards and not giving current team member chance to meet them - the list goes on..

Pretty amazing - a feeding frenzy of paranoia that "sources" are used to "share information" that then become stated as fact by this board...

Anybody meet them?  Anybody talk to them?   My one interaction with Larry was not great but I am not writing both them off as the above - think they were put in place to lead this university and athletics to the next level, give them a chance...


Pakuni

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 25, 2012, 09:30:38 AM
+1

Couldn't have said it any better. It's worth at least giving a little time to see how this stuff plays out before decisively saying all is clear or Hiroshima is upon us. I would be very disappointed if the rumors came true and it either impacted current players or our future recruiting pool.

That's all well and good, but the fact is Pilarz and L. Williams have been portrayed as incompetent, scheming, bumbling ne'er-do-wells based on a handful of rumors, none of which have come true. They, for all intents, have been convicted and sentenced without the benefit of a trial or evidence, just innuendo and rumor from a bunch of  Internet posters who are willing to throw these men under the bus while cowering behind the anonymity of their screen names and "sources."

And, worst of all, IMO, is posts like these essentially saying "I don't have a clue whether the rumors are true, but I'm going to assume guilty until proven innocent. And, oh yeah, it's impossible to prove innocence."

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Pakuni on May 25, 2012, 10:26:56 AM
That's all well and good, but the fact is Pilarz and L. Williams have been portrayed as incompetent, scheming, bumbling ne'er-do-wells based on a handful of rumors, none of which have come true. They, for all intents, have been convicted and sentenced without the benefit of a trial or evidence, just innuendo and rumor from a bunch of  Internet posters who are willing to throw these men under the bus while cowering behind the anonymity of their screen names and "sources."

And, worst of all, IMO, is posts like these essentially saying "I don't have a clue whether the rumors are true, but I'm going to assume guilty until proven innocent. And, oh yeah, it's impossible to prove innocence."

We'll agree to disagree. I think the worst is totally over the top post like these that mischaraterize people's legitimate concerns.

Canadian Dimes

Quote from: Pakuni on May 25, 2012, 10:26:56 AM
That's all well and good, but the fact is Pilarz and L. Williams have been portrayed as incompetent, scheming, bumbling ne'er-do-wells based on a handful of rumors, none of which have come true. They, for all intents, have been convicted and sentenced without the benefit of a trial or evidence, just innuendo and rumor from a bunch of  Internet posters who are willing to throw these men under the bus while cowering behind the anonymity of their screen names and "sources."

And, worst of all, IMO, is posts like these essentially saying "I don't have a clue whether the rumors are true, but I'm going to assume guilty until proven innocent. And, oh yeah, it's impossible to prove innocence."

but hey why give them the benefit of the doubt.  My as well throw the BOT in the same group as they allowed these double agents into our midst

brewcity77

Quote from: Pakuni on May 25, 2012, 10:26:56 AM
And, worst of all, IMO, is posts like these essentially saying "I don't have a clue whether the rumors are true, but I'm going to assume guilty until proven innocent. And, oh yeah, it's impossible to prove innocence."

Did you even read my post? Where did I assume guilt? Oh yeah, I didn't. But because of this inane "tin foil hat v Hiroshima" argument, you put an opinion into my post that wasn't there. I'm not assuming guilt OR innocence. I'm waiting until we have more evidence, which I think is the reasonable approach. But apparently things are so black and white now that we aren't allowed to be moderate.

All the work on this site to avoid politics, and we just create partisan takes of our own about Marquette  ::)

GGGG

There is nothing wrong with message board members posting facts from anonymous sources.  As hilltopper said, that is kind of what a message board is about.

However, I think it is the responsibility of those members to clarify what it is exactly that they *know* versus what they are speculating.

For instance, and I have been saying this for awhile, I know for an absolute fact that an MU player had academic issues last year that caused him to miss multiple team activities.  I cannot tell you how I know that without getting someone in trouble...so I won't.  If you don't trust that I know this, then you can choose not to believe me.

However, it would be pure speculation on my part to link this to some sort of change in policy...or change in philosophy...of the athletic department.  I think this is the reasonable stance that members of this group need to adhere to.

classof70

Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 25, 2012, 09:26:28 AM


For me at least the character, intelligence and letter writing skills of Fr Pilarz and L Williams are not in question. Unfortunately, high character, intelligent guys who can write a nice letter can also be shortsighted and make poor decisions. That's my concern, and if any of the rumors being discussed are true I think that concern is legitimate.

What are the rumors?

real chili 83

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Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 25, 2012, 11:45:36 AM
There is nothing wrong with message board members posting facts from anonymous sources.  As hilltopper said, that is kind of what a message board is about.

However, I think it is the responsibility of those members to clarify what it is exactly that they *know* versus what they are speculating.

For instance, and I have been saying this for awhile, I know for an absolute fact that an MU player had academic issues la/]st year that caused him to miss multiple team activities.  I cannot tell you how I know that without getting someone in trouble...so I won't.  If you don't trust that I know this, then you can choose not to believe me.

However, it would be pure speculation on my part to link this to some sort of change in policy...or change in philosophy...of the athletic department.  I think this is the reasonable stance that members of this group need to adhere to.

We also know that LW gave that stupid a$$ interview to the js where he publicly announced his perception of Buzz's development needs.

Dimes, you may be right about their values, but The domer gave us reason to doubt his common sense.

Hoopaloop

Quote from: Pakuni on May 25, 2012, 10:26:56 AM
That's all well and good, but the fact is Pilarz and L. Williams have been portrayed as incompetent, scheming, bumbling ne'er-do-wells based on a handful of rumors, none of which have come true. They, for all intents, have been convicted and sentenced without the benefit of a trial or evidence, just innuendo and rumor from a bunch of  Internet posters who are willing to throw these men under the bus while cowering behind the anonymity of their screen names and "sources."

And, worst of all, IMO, is posts like these essentially saying "I don't have a clue whether the rumors are true, but I'm going to assume guilty until proven innocent. And, oh yeah, it's impossible to prove innocence."
Outstanding post.  Captures the tin foil hats very well here.
"Since you asked, since you pretend to know why I'm not posting here anymore, let me make this as clear as I can for you Ners.  You are the reason I'm not posting here anymore."   BMA725  http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=28095.msg324636#msg324636

Small Orange Soda

Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 25, 2012, 10:15:32 PM
Outstanding post.  Captures the tin foil hats very well here.

True.  Some see these conspiracy theories and claim, if true, they're all on the folks above Buzz.  You, however, see the same conspiracy theories and claim that if they're true, it's all on Buzz.  Glad you took your tinfoil hat off (without any information).  This board is fortunate to have your inside access. 

Hoopaloop

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 26, 2012, 03:35:03 AM
True.  Some see these conspiracy theories and claim, if true, they're all on the folks above Buzz.  You, however, see the same conspiracy theories and claim that if they're true, it's all on Buzz.  Glad you took your tinfoil hat off (without any information).  This board is fortunate to have your inside access. 

16 out of 36 by you.  44.4%   Outstanding. 
"Since you asked, since you pretend to know why I'm not posting here anymore, let me make this as clear as I can for you Ners.  You are the reason I'm not posting here anymore."   BMA725  http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=28095.msg324636#msg324636

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on May 26, 2012, 03:35:03 AM
True.  Some see these conspiracy theories and claim, if true, they're all on the folks above Buzz.  You, however, see the same conspiracy theories and claim that if they're true, it's all on Buzz.  Glad you took your tinfoil hat off (without any information).  This board is fortunate to have your inside access. 

Outstanding post. Captures the essence of Hoopaloop very well here.

wyzgy

pardon my naivety, but what is "hiroshima incident"  i must have missed something

brewcity77

Quote from: wyzgy on May 31, 2012, 06:56:11 AM
pardon my naivety, but what is "hiroshima incident"  i must have missed something

At this point, I'm not sure anyone even remembers...

...but if you poke around the site, it's been explained at least 3-4 times.

wyzgy

o.k., found it...wow!  that's a real bomb.  who's passing out the tin foil hats, i'll watch for the black helicopters.  nothing wrong with re-verifying marquettes academic standards as they should apply to all students.  participation in any ncaa sport is very comprehensive and rigorous.  the programs usually do all they can to help the student athlete, as they should, short of cheating.  not all of the athletes, sad to say, will go on to become "stars" and the free education should be something they can still use throughout the rest of their lives

LON

If nothing else, "Hiroshima" has at least brought out a bunch of avatars featuring LOLcats with tinfoil hats, and they make me laugh.  Every.Damn.Time.

So we got that going for us, which is OK.

Bocephys

Quote from: LancesOtherNut on May 31, 2012, 08:15:46 AM
If nothing else, "Hiroshima" has at least brought out a bunch of avatars featuring LOLcats with tinfoil hats, and they make me laugh.  Every.Damn.Time.

So we got that going for us, which is OK.

Just for you Lance.  Here's a picture of madtown trolling chatroullette.


madtownwarrior

Nice bocefeces - other than I am the one who supposedly calls out the tinfoils - along with about 10 others here.  If the shoe fits - as wzygs seems to agree.

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