Seth Davis Article

[MUMac]

Wishing you luck in the future.  I originally came here just to do that but after reading some of the anti-Wisconsin stuff thought an update was in order.  We're happy for little brother. 

You really are a snarky little ass, aren't you?  Just go away.  You are one strange person.  Frankly I do not care at all if you wish us luck.  I don't care if you exist.   Go away.  You add nothing, absolutely nothing.  You came here to be an a$$ and you far exceeded your intentions.  Now just leave.  I don't care about this thread and I certainly don't care about your thoughts.

As I said earlier, we banned chico's but allow crapsters like this to exist?  Really?

[muwarrior97]

I'm not sure how these message board things completely work, but I'll try and do the same.

NC2A berths since 1955 - MU 30, UW-Madison 16
NC2A wins since 1955 - MU 38, UW-Madison 21
Sweet 16s since 1955 - MU 15, UW-Madison 6
Elite 8's since 1955 - MU 6, UW-Madison 2
Final 4's since 1974 - MU 3, UW-Madison 1
Championshp games since 1974 - MU 2, UW-Madison 0
Championships since 1977 - MU 1, UW-Madison 0

Primary goal of a legitimate national operation is to do damage in March.

BOOM GOES THE BOARD!! Amen brah

[The Process]

If that was written it must be in white type because it isn't there.  Year in and year out fans say this is the year Wisconsin hoops will blow up in their face, no athletes, boring basketball.  Year in and year out they are wrong.  Again.

Are they wrong, though?  If Bo's system was as "successful" as you would like to make it out to be, wouldn't they be making Final Fours year in and year out?

Instead, we have Bo reacting... unhappily... towards calls:



And Eye is spot on, yet again, with his analysis.  Bob - perhaps you should consider actually attending a 4 year college where you can learn critical thinking skills.  Or basic statistical analysis skills.  Things they in theory teach at Madison, but are hard to understand when in a lecture hall with 500 others.  That's ok - we have smaller class sizes at MU!

[Dawson Rental]

Please explain what this is.  Never heard of this term, cannot find it on Google either.

I forget the exact play, but Kevin Stalling almost lost his mind on a Wisconsin Walk-under.  I have no idea why the officials don't call it.  It's completely obvious that when a player jumps up for a jump shot, Wisconsin players consistently put their arms straight up and then walk a step or two under the shooter, knocking him off-balance and undercutting his legs.  It appears obvious on the TV angles, but the refs must not see it because its never called.

One of the moves I'm sure that Big 10 coach was talking about in the Seth Davis article - the Wisconsin Walk-under.

[AZWarrior]

Please explain what this is.  Never heard of this term, cannot find it on Google either.

Kevin Stalling almost lost his mind on a Wisconsin Walk-under..........when a player jumps up for a jump shot, Wisconsin players consistently put their arms straight up and then walk a step or two under the shooter, knocking him off-balance and undercutting his legs.  It appears obvious on the TV angles, but the refs must not see it because its never called.

One of the moves I'm sure that Big 10 coach was talking about in the Seth Davis article - the Wisconsin Walk-under.

[AZWarrior]

I forget the exact play, but Kevin Stalling almost lost his mind on a Wisconsin Walk-under.  I have no idea why the officials don't call it.  It's completely obvious that when a player jumps up for a jump shot, Wisconsin players consistently put their arms straight up and then walk a step or two under the shooter, knocking him off-balance and undercutting his legs.  It appears obvious on the TV angles, but the refs must not see it because its never called.

One of the moves I'm sure that Big 10 coach was talking about in the Seth Davis article - the Wisconsin Walk-under.

Murs - I couldn't find the danged thread.  Looks like you just beat me to it - thanks for the assist.

[wadesworld]

Last year we beat you at the Bradley Center.  Does that mean we were better than you last year?  It's about post season gentlemen.  Getting there and what you do there.  Good to see you hanging with us for the first time in a long time.  

Yes, it meant Wisconsin was better last year.  Lol.  For the first time in a long time?  So when Wisconsin lost in the Sweet 16 last year and Marquette lost in the Sweet 16 last year, Marquette didn't keep up with Wisconsin?  You aren't very smart, are you little guy?

Buzz is still a Curly looking Quasimoto lookin' mo-fo.  We'll see if he can coach.  The NCAA is typically slow ball kind of stuff.  Wisconsin rarely is blown out in the tournament.  You guys when you lose typically lose in fantastic gas can fire episodes like last year.  That's coaching.  Of course you have a layup to the Elite 8 if you do things correctly.  We have to play that first place Big East team.  Scared.  

I know you Wisconsin fans are all into your moral victories, but to me a loss is a loss.  50 point loss?  0-1 for that day.  1 point, triple overtime loss? 0-1 for that day.  Anyways, you realize Buzz has been the coach at Marquette for 4 years and has already won more games against lower seeded teams in the NCAA Tournament as Bo has in his CAREER, right?  You talk about how UW-Madison "rarely gets blown out in the tournament," yet since the 2000 NCAA Tournament (since you seem to love that year as the beginning of basketball), they have lost by double-digits 6 times in the NCAA.  That's 50%.  Hardly seems like "rarely" to me, but hey, if you think so, good for you!  In 2 of the other years they have lost to mid-major, higher seeded teams by 7 and 8 points.  I hate to burst your bubble, but you're wrong.  They get blown out quite a bit in the NCAA Tournament.

2000 NCAA Tournament - L 63-51 Michigan State - 12 points
2002 NCAA Tournament - L 87-57 Maryland - 30 points
2006 NCAA Tournament - L 94-75 Arizona - 19 points
2008 NCAA Tournament - L 73-56 Davidson - 17 points
2009 NCAA Tournament - L 60-49 Xavier - 11 points
2010 NCAA Tournament - L 87-69 Cornell - 18 points

Seems like a lot of blowouts to me.  Maybe it's just me.

Average margin of loss in the NCAA Tournament since 2000?  11.4 points.  Weird.


Boy Ryan in the NCAA:

2002 NCAA Tournament – 8 seed, beat 9 seed, smoked by 1 seed
2003 NCAA Touranment – 5 seed, beat 12 seed, beat 13 seed, lose to 1 seed
2004 NCAA Tournament – 6 seed, beat 11 seed, lose to 3 seed
2005 NCAA Tournament – 6 seed, beat 11 seed, beat 14 seed, beat 10 seed, lose to 1 seed
2006 NCAA Tournament – 9 seed, smoked by 8 seed
2007 NCAA Tournament – 2 seed, beat 15 seed, smoked by 7 seed
2008 NCAA Tournament – 3 seed, beat 14 seed, beat 11 seed, smoked by 10 seed
2009 NCAA Tournament – 12 seed, beat 5 seed (CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR 1 UPSET WIN, BO!), smoked by 4 seed
2010 NCAA Tournament – 4 seed, beat 13 seed, smoked by 12 seed
2011 NCAA Tournament – 4 seed, beat 13 seed, beat 5 seed, lost to 8 seed
(So far) 2012 NCAA Tournament - 4 seed, beat 13 seed, beat 5 seed

Overall record – 16-10 (61.5%)
Record against single-digit seeds – 4-8 (33.3%)

Buzz Williams in the NCAA:

2009 NCAA Tournament – 6 seed, beat 11 seed, lost to 3 seed
2010 NCAA Tournament – 6 seed, lost to 11 seed
2011 NCAA Tournament – 11 seed, beat 6 seed, beat 3 seed, smoked by 2 seed
(So far) 2012 NCAA Tournament – 3 seed, beat 14 seed, beat 4 seed

Overall record – 5-3 (62.5%)
Record against single-digit seeds – 3-2 (60.0%)

Looks like the percentages favor Buzz (not sure why we'd compare Bo to Crean since Crean is at Indiana now).  I think the comparison should be started in 2008, since that is when Buzz took over.  Since then, Wisconsin has 2 Sweet Sixteen appearances to Marquette's 2.  Neither have an Elite Eight appearance.  Looks like there is no difference in NCAA Tournament success since Buzz has taken over as coach.  Marquette has upset 2 teams since then and been upset once, while Wisconsin has upset one team since then and been upset 3 times.   Weird.

[Hoopaloop]

Are they wrong, though?  If Bo's system was as "successful" as you would like to make it out to be, wouldn't they be making Final Fours year in and year out?

Instead, we have Bo reacting... unhappily... towards calls:



And Eye is spot on, yet again, with his analysis.  Bob - perhaps you should consider actually attending a 4 year college where you can learn critical thinking skills.  Or basic statistical analysis skills.  Things they in theory teach at Madison, but are hard to understand when in a lecture hall with 500 others.  That's ok - we have smaller class sizes at MU!

Did you make that video?  That is great.  How did you do that?  LIKE. LIKE. LIKE.

[CTWarrior]

Because of our game I turned UW-Vandy on for the last 5 minutes or so.

A couple things. 

When Jenkins missed the 3 pointer that would have given Vandy the lead with less than 10 seconds to go Ezeli had position for the putback but was held down and subtly pushed with a forearm to the back by one Wisconsin big leaving Evans alone for the rebound.  A foul easily seen on replay but not so obvious live and one they got away with.  Given Ezeli's poor foul shooting (he missed the front end of a 1 and 1 that would have tied it on the previous possession) I doubt he'd have made them both, though.  That's the kind of stuff that irritates losing coaches, but hard to blame UW for getting away with it.

But give them credit.  Jordan Taylor stepped up with a gigantic 3 to take back the lead with 1:45 to go when it looked like Wisconsin was falling apart following a 13-3 Vandy run, and they got a couple of clutch offensive rebounds, particularly the one Gasser chased down, simply by outhustling Vandy.  I tip my hat to UW for being the tougher team yesterday and knocking out a very good team.

Still, I hope Syracuse buries them.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

Wow, one flammer UW poster and I am almost ready to change my opinion on whether Tom Crean or Bo Ryan is more evil.

[Hoopaloop]

Wow, one flammer UW poster and I am almost ready to change my opinion on whether Tom Crean or Bo Ryan is more evil.

Is it even a question. Crean gave us a Final Four and Buzz Williams.  Bo Ryan is a douche and coaches our in-state rival.  How is it even a contest?  What is a flammer? 

[wadesworld]

Is it even a question. Crean gave us a Final Four and Buzz Williams.  Bo Ryan is a douche and coaches our in-state rival.  How is it even a contest?  What is a flammer? 

I agree.  Bo is a whining kitten.  Crean is still the bigger douche, but it's a lot more fun to watch Bo lose and bad calls go against Bo.

[Skatastrophy]

Is it even a question. Crean gave us a Final Four and Buzz Williams.  Bo Ryan is a douche and coaches our in-state rival.  How is it even a contest?  What is a flammer? 

A flamer is one who flames on the internet.  Flaming is intentionally saying stuff to rile other people up.  Similar to trolling, but with more personal insults.

[Hoopaloop]

A flamer is one who flames on the internet.  Flaming is intentionally saying stuff to rile other people up.  Similar to trolling, but with more personal insults.

Understand but what is a flammer? 

[Skatastrophy]

Understand but what is a flammer? 

http://www.youtube.com/v/_CmK8ZQvGPo

[MUfan12]

As I said earlier, we banned chico's but allow crapsters like this to exist?  Really?

No kidding. The guy adds nothing, and comes here to troll. Come on mods.