Yep, Like Clockwork...

[Dawson Rental]

Dude, check my history. I've been 100% consistently anti-Crean since the final buzzer went off in New Orleans after T-Cubed soiled his trousers on the biggest stage in college basketball.
I'd had bought him a one way bus ticket out of here years before he bolted for greener pastures.

Fortunately, no one did, so he was around to hire Buzz as an assistant his last year.

[Hoopaloop]

And they are correct.  Your best player and most importantly your best rebounder collects his 4th foul with 6 minutes left and he sits while Iu gives up a lead as Wisky collects 4-5 offensive rebounds.  Crean then puts him back in down 5 with 1:04 left in the game.  Absolutely abyssmal.  on top of it they s run a set out of the time out where said cold player shoots a 15 foot turn around J.

I thought IU fans were stupid, but some MU fans fit the bill as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20120126/bkc-t25-indiana-wisconsin/

Zeller was put back in down 3, a one possession game with 1:04 and the ball.  Not down 5.  So you're wrong, the IU fans are wrong.  The article attached accounts it correctly. 

On the IU board there were probably 1000 pages of posts after they beat #1 Kentucky and #2 Ohio State.  Apparently they won those games despite Crean but lost this game because of Crean.  Some IU fans are this stupid and goes to show plenty of MU fans are as well.  With the #1 recruiting class coming in next year and exceeding expectations this year, it would be hard to believe that he would fired anytime soon.

[wadesworld]

On the IU board there were probably 1000 pages of posts after they beat #1 Kentucky and #2 Ohio State.  Apparently they won those games despite Crean but lost this game because of Crean.

Yes.  That makes logical sense.  I'm not going to argue whether Crean is a good coach or a bad coach, but just in general, if there is an AWFUL coach who just makes his team worse, then when that team wins games they win them IN SPITE of the coach, while when they lose games, it very well could be BECAUSE of the coach.  That is logical.  What would NOT be logical would be to claim that a coach is amazing and the reason a team is successful (Bo Ryan, for example), but then go on to say that the coach is the reason that they are losing games (as opposed to a lack of talent or something else).

[MUrugger]

I'm with Dimes.  Not saying he will get fired.  Not saying he should get fired.  But boy, I sure will be happy when he DOES get fired.

The legendary arrogance of his I-4 comments should be the precursor to a legendary fall.  In fact, not winning with his stud recruits coming in--which will happen because he can't coach--could accelerate his demise.

[Canadian Dimes]

ya dont htink i said anything about getting fired this year or next.  But he will get fired...in fact IU fans have such high basketball IQ's that they are quickly growing tired of creans ways.

He has 0 basketball intuition and many see what i hated about him.

2-30 on the road as coach at IU....nothing else needs to be said.

[Hoopaloop]

Almost all coaches get fired, you are hardly offering anything credible in your comments.  Coaches that hang around for long periods of time are the exception, not the rule.

Care to restate your down 5 points comment before Zeller was put back in? 

2-30 on the road is not correct either.  They have three road wins this year alone, plus a neutral court win.  Where do you get your information? 

Or are you talking about 2-30 in Big Ten play?  Considering that joke of a team they had the first few years, it is not surprising to those of us that know Big Ten basketball.

[ringout]

Almost all coaches get fired, you are hardly offering anything credible in your comments.  Coaches that hang around for long periods of time are the exception, not the rule.

Care to restate your down 5 points comment before Zeller was put back in? 

2-30 on the road is not correct either.  They have three road wins this year alone, plus a neutral court win.  Where do you get your information? 

Or are you talking about 2-30 in Big Ten play?  Considering that joke of a team they had the first few years, it is not surprising to those of us that know Big Ten basketball.

You're really not Chicos?

[GGGG]

You're really not Chicos?

Oh no!!!  Why would you think he's Chicos???   

[Da 'Lanche]

So, for some fun (or some agony).....what if we were to face either Crean or a repeat with Bo in the NCAA tournament...two questions to ponder:

1.  Who would you rather beat to knock out of the tournament....Crean or Ryan?

2.  Who would be worse on our collective pysche to lose to and get knocked out of the tourney....Crean or Ryan?

Either case would be sweet in #1 and both would be horrible in #2.    I'm very torn, but, I think it would be sweeter to knock out Crean and more painful to lose to Cryin' Ryan.   

I vomit thinking of losing to either, though.   This is just to add some fun back into the thread.

[4everwarriors]

I'm all in any chance there is to pee on T-Cube.

[RawdogDX]

So, for some fun (or some agony).....what if we were to face either Crean or a repeat with Bo in the NCAA tournament...two questions to ponder:

1.  Who would you rather beat to knock out of the tournament....Crean or Ryan?

2.  Who would be worse on our collective pysche to lose to and get knocked out of the tourney....Crean or Ryan?

Either case would be sweet in #1 and both would be horrible in #2.    I'm very torn, but, I think it would be sweeter to knock out Crean and more painful to lose to Cryin' Ryan.   

I vomit thinking of losing to either, though.   This is just to add some fun back into the thread.

What about:
3. Who are we more likely to beat?

I don't know the answer but I'd guess WI.

[Hoopaloop]

ya dont htink i said anything about getting fired this year or next.  But he will get fired...in fact IU fans have such high basketball IQ's that they are quickly growing tired of creans ways.

He has 0 basketball intuition and many see what i hated about him.

2-30 on the road as coach at IU....nothing else needs to be said.

They seem to be in a much different mood since Saturday night. 

[Hoopaloop]

Anyone catch the post game of the Super Bowl on NBC?  Dan Patrick talked to the Giants owner about the fans calling for Coughlin's head only 6 weeks earlier.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/23/tom-coughlin-rises-again/


Fans on message boards calling for someone to be fired means nothing. Dimes, you need to be smarter than this.  They are selling out Assembly Hall, people are talking about them again, great recruiting classes coming in, money from Mark Cuban, the guys at Eli Lilly, and other well to do boosters.  IU has a solid administration that isn't going to abandon their plan.  You sound like some of my Purdue brethren.  Expectations will be very big down there, but that doesn't mean they are going to fire their coach because he doesn't take them to a Final Four in the next 5 years.  If he does go to a Final Four, what will be the excuse this time?  That he had Dwyane Wade? 

[Silkk the Shaka]

Pulling up a week-dead thread to gloat about Tom Crean.  What'd you think about the MU game last night?

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

They are selling out Assembly Hall, people are talking about them again, great recruiting classes coming in, money from Mark Cuban, the guys at Eli Lilly, and other well to do boosters.  IU has a solid administration that isn't going to abandon their plan.  You sound like some of my Purdue brethren.

For a Purdue guy, you sure know a lot of about the situation at IU and their "solid administration."

This charade is more bizarre and disturbing than a David Lynch movie.

[Hoopaloop]

Pulling up a week-dead thread to gloat about Tom Crean.  What'd you think about the MU game last night?

I don't live here at Scoop 24/7.  When I do come here, I typically read a few threads and that's it.  Sometimes when I have more time I'll go back and catch up on some others.  Maybe we should have a timer that says threads should be locked after 2 days so that those of us that don't login every day, spend every waking minute here can just keep our thoughts to ourselves. 

No gloating at all, he's the IU coach not the Purdue coach.  Though don't you find it fascinating that there are posts here when they lose or entire threads but nothing when they win?  Predictions of firings?  Weren't these some of the same posters here that said he wouldn't make it this long.  Using hatred for analysis and not your brain is never a good idea.  I hear Minnesota is really bad according to one thread here, but on another thread today it has us playing Minnesota in the first round of the NCAA tournament according to some bracket projection.

MU against DePaul - it was fun.  Were you there?  MU portion of the crowd was so-so, but it's always good to have a good solid MU support base there against the Demons.  Not much to talk about really.  We beat a grossly inferior team.  We came out slow (again), recovered (again) and won handily (as we should have). 

[Hoopaloop]

For a Purdue guy, you sure know a lot of about the situation at IU and their "solid administration."

This charade is more bizarre and disturbing than a David Lynch movie.

You should really start reading UFO books.  It's odd for someone that went to Purdue and grew up with Indiana basketball (the state of Indiana) to not know about his rival school's administration?  I find it anything but.

Yet we have posts after posts after posts here about Wisconsin's administration (the good or bad of it) and about Barry Alvarez, or Bret Bielema, Chadima, Bo Ryan, and others associated with the Wisconsin program?   

For a Marquette board, we sure know a lot about the situation at UW and their "solid administration".