Favorite MU Player - THE POLL

[MU82]

You know a bunch of young'uns are on this board when no player before the Wade/Diener era gets more than a dozen votes!

Obviously, Al had some incredible, incredible players, many of them better than anybody since other than Wade. Still, I guess we, um, "more mature" MU folks can't expect the younger crowd to vote for players whose careers ended before they were born!

[romey]

MU I 'm with you.  I feel old.  I voted Butch Lee - National Player of the Year in at least one or two polls the year we won it all (Phil Ford of UNC was the other player garnering POY honors).  But we beat Ford for the championship so I'll take that any day.  And only 6 votes for Butch.  But this is a favorite player poll, so I guess the results illustrate the age of the scoopers, right?

[Aughnanure]

F*** it. Why not? We're at #82 anyways.

not to cut in on us just moving into 2nd place to jump back in history, but ...

Thanks for posting this, fantastic.  I compared the list to the Top 100 I've kept since writing the book that ranked them all.  The only possible oversight I saw was Ric Cobb who I calculated as the 40th best player ever, so would have put him in a list of 80 to choose from.  Here are the others since 1950 who i had in the top 100 but were not on your list:

40   Ric   Cobb   1969, 70
55   Dave   Erickson   1961, 62, 63
64   Don   Bugalski   1954, 55, 56
72   Jerry   Homan   1973, 74, 75
73   Brad   Luchini   1966, 67, 68
74   Bob   Hornak   1961, 62, 63
78   George   Frazier   1971, 72, 73
80   Pat   Smith   1967, 68, 69
85   Grant   Wittberger   1951, 52
86   Terrell   Schlundt   1980, 81, 82, 83
87   Marc   Marotta   1981, 82, 83, 84
88   Richard   Nixon   1961, 62, 63
91   John   Cliff   1997, 98, 99, 2000
95   Gerry   Hopfensperger   1955, 56, 57
96   Jeff   Sewell   1968, 69, 70

Obviously very few fans saw pre-1950s game, but here are the others from my top 100 not on your list because they played before 1950.  With that 100th year creeping up, i don't want to forget the pioneers either.

Highest ranked not on list - before 1950
12   Dave   Quabius   1937, 38, 39
23   Ed   Mullen   1933, 34, 35
29   Gene   Berce   1945, 47, 48
29   William   Chandler   1942, 43, 44, 45
30   Raymond   Morstadt   1934, 35, 36
31   Joseph (Red)   Dunn   1922, 23, 24, 25
32   Richard   Quinn   1922, 23, 24, 25
58   Al   Delmore   1918, 19
61   Howard   Kallenberger   1943, 44, 46
65   Joseph   King   1930, 31, 32
68   Whitley   Budrunas   1931, 32
69   LeRoy   Andrews   1929, 30, 31
71   Robert   Deneen   1938, 39, 40
75   Gene   Ronzani   1932, 33, 34
79   Adolph   Gorychka   1933, 34, 35
83   James   O'Donnell   1929, 30, 31
98   Kenneth   Wiesner   1945, 46, 47
99   Frank   McCabe   1946, 47, 48, 49
100   James   McCoy   1957, 58, 59

[Aughnanure]

MU I 'm with you.  I feel old.  I voted Butch Lee - National Player of the Year in at least one or two polls the year we won it all (Phil Ford of UNC was the other player garnering POY honors).  But we beat Ford for the championship so I'll take that any day.  And only 6 votes for Butch.  But this is a favorite player poll, so I guess the results illustrate the age of the scoopers, right?

If this was pinned or something at top for long enough, allowing more of the older MU fans that dont check-in that often to see it and vote, it may even out a bit. But yeah, most of us are of the post 1990 classes. But if I had to do it over again, I think I may have made it a "Top 3" and given everyone 3 votes.

[wadesworld]

F*** it. Why not? We're at #82 anyways.

Christopherson

:-)

[wadesworld]

If this was pinned or something at top for long enough, allowing more of the older MU fans that dont check-in that often to see it and vote, it may even out a bit. But yeah, most of us are of the post 1990 classes. But if I had to do it over again, I think I may have made it a "Top 3" and given everyone 3 votes.

Yeah I like that.

[Aughnanure]

Christopherson

:-)

Have a hard time putting in someone who transferred, esp one with less than 100 minutes. He really is an Iowa St. Cyclone (awesome win btw! Hate KU), but I can see you're pretty persistent.

[wadesworld]

Have a hard time putting in someone who transferred, esp one with less than 100 minutes. He really is an Iowa St. Cyclone (awesome win btw! Hate KU), but I can see you're pretty persistent.

Hahaha yessssss.  Thanks.  More votes than many ;-)

[Hoopaloop]

For fun, yeah, I'll do it.

The top 10 vote getters (3 way tie for 5th)

1) Dwyane Wade 15%
2) Wes Matthews 11.1%
3) Lazar Hayward 8.1%
4) Dominc James 6.0%
5) Travis Diener 5.1%
5) Jimmy Butler 5.1%
5) Doc Rivers 5.1%
8) Jerel McNeal 4.3%
8) Steve Novak 4.3%
10) Butch Lee 3%


My conclusions

• People have short memories or the age group of this board is young to have so many players in the 2000's rank in the top 5


• Crean couldn't recruit quality but apparently he recruited most of everyone's favorite players.  The top 5 players all recruited by Crean (yes, and two others that tied for five that were recruited by other coaches).  Seven of the top 10.  Why do we hate this guy again for bringing that kind of talent to MU?


• Bo Ellis, Dean Meminger, George Thompson combined would not have finished in the top 3.
  Jim Chones got 0 votes?  That is surprising.  Maybe because he left early, we sure hate those players and coaches that leave early from MU.

[Dawson Rental]

I cant tell if you're joking or not, but what the hell, we're at #78 anyways.

I Remember Al McGuire by Mike Towle in Chapter 5, In His Own Words, recalls the following.

On being knocked down by a punch thrown in practice by Marquette player Dave Delsman, who was responding to a McGuire challenge:

Can you imagine that little squirt putting me on the floor?  I should have just hit him on the top of the head and been done with it.

[ringout]

How about adding Dean Marquardt....for the post accident break out game he had against Digger and Co.

Deano picked a good time for his best game as a Warrior.  Without his game, Doc's bomb would have been for naught.

[muwarrior69]

Just put all the players on the list who have ever played for MU. After all its your favorite player, not the best.