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77ncaachamps

Benny, using your rationale would you have taken Evan Anderson? He's TALL.
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Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 19, 2012, 05:52:24 PM
Benny, using your rationale would you have taken Evan Anderson? He's TALL.

At the time, I think we would have.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

GGGG

Quote from: Benny B on January 19, 2012, 05:01:07 PM
If it weren't against NCAA rules, I would honestly be sending Aaron's family a fruit-basket or something just to show our appreciation.  I don't get why so many on here (who collectively represents .01% of Marquette fans) want to run this kid off or question why he isn't getting any PT.


Frankly if Buzz wants him, that is good enough for me...and it should be good enough for everyone else.

4everwarriors

Quote from: LittleMurs on January 19, 2012, 06:46:13 PM
At the time, I think we would have.


Murray, you got any eligibility left?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MUMac

Quote from: LittleMurs on January 19, 2012, 06:46:13 PM
At the time, I think we would have.
He committed early.  Had he waited until his senior season, I am not so sure we would have.

tower912

Give me Durley.   Not playing behind a top 10 recruit?    Meh.   He is ranked among the top recruits in Texas.  He is 6'11 270.   We don't need him to star as a freshman.   Get him here, let him develop against a couple of decent bigs without any pressure.    Let him learn the schemes and let Todd work his magic.     I honestly don't see the downside.      On a smaller scale, a friend's daughter was the 11th player as a senior on her high school team, which currently has won 86 of its last 91 games.    Played around 30 minutes for the season.    Her first year in college, she was the first post player off of the bench at a DII school.      She is starting as a junior.   Two more words: Amal McCaskill.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

DomJamesToTheBasket

Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2012, 08:41:50 PM
Two more words: Amal McCaskill.
Durley has a lot of potential, but there are also far more recent names (Buzz era....not 20 years ago) of Mbao, Roseboro, and McMorrow.  He's much more likely to follow them than McCaskill.  I'm all for bringing him in,  but let's be realistic.

GGGG

Quote from: TheBuzzsaw on January 19, 2012, 09:04:41 PM
Durley has a lot of potential, but there are also far more recent names (Buzz era....not 20 years ago) of Mbao, Roseboro, and McMorrow.  He's much more likely to follow them than McCaskill.  I'm all for bringing him in,  but let's be realistic.

Mbao, Roseboro and McMorrow were all late signees...I mean Liam was signed in July.  (And would likely still be here if healthy.)  So in all of them were likely more desperation cases more than anything else.

Buzz was on Durley early and signed him early.  This is much more like the Otule signing than anything else.  A big, defensive center.

🏀

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 19, 2012, 09:12:12 PM
Mbao, Roseboro and McMorrow were all late signees...I mean Liam was signed in July.  (And would likely still be here if healthy.)  So in all of them were likely more desperation cases more than anything else.

Buzz was on Durley early and signed him early.  This is much more like the Otule signing than anything else.  A big, defensive center.

With two eyes.

Benny B

Quote from: TheBuzzsaw on January 19, 2012, 09:04:41 PM
Durley has a lot of potential, but there are also far more recent names (Buzz era....not 20 years ago) of Mbao, Roseboro, and McMorrow.  He's much more likely to follow them than McCaskill.  I'm all for bringing him in,  but let's be realistic.

Fine, let's look at Buzz's Project Big history:

1) Mbao never panned out... chalk that up in the L column.
2) Gardner and Otule definitely go in the W column.
3) Liam never played due to health issues; it's hard to say whether he would have developed better at MU, but he has found himself a reserve role at TTU, something that probably has more to do with continuing health issues than player development.  At worst, I call this a no-decision.

I'm willing to give Buzz a pass on Roseboro... it was a recruiting mistake on both sides that was realized before school started; also, let's be honest here and consider that this was Buzz's first year recruiting his own class at a major D-I program (not that it's an excuse, but it should be a consideration).  Nevertheless, Roseboro never did play at MU and there's no telling how he might have developed under Buzz.  However, even if you consider that an L, Buzz is 2-2 so far.

In other words, based on Buzz's history, Aaron has at least a 50% chance of developing into a serviceable big at MU and a 25% chance of being a Jack-O-Lantern.  I'll play those odds any day.

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 19, 2012, 05:52:24 PM
Benny, using your rationale would you have taken Evan Anderson? He's TALL.

Personally, I would only offer a sophomore at the guard position (too many variables in development with forwards and centers their last two years of HS), but considering he was a top 10 recruit when he signed, there still would have been a voice in my head saying "go for it."
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

tower912

I'd have taken Anderson.   I'd have taken that big at UWGB.    They don't have to be stars.   The bigs have to keep other bigs from being stars.   Just be able to occupy the other and not get dominated, giving us a chance.   Otule excels at this. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

kmwtrucks

If the staff and Durley decide gettting a year at a Good Juco to get playing time makes sense and he decided to goto the class of 2013, a Juco like this that could step in and get minutes at the 4 would be just what we need.  We could be in real trouble rebounding next year. A PF that can play 20 mins might be the Diff of us making the tournament or not.  S Taylor is going to get minutes but he will need a year to add weight.   I agree having 3 bigs in one class is a problem but better to have it then the other option.  

GGGG

Quote from: kmwtrucks on January 20, 2012, 10:01:51 AM
If the staff and Durley decide gettting a year at a Good Juco to get playing time makes sense and he decided to goto the class of 2013, a Juco like this that could step in and get minutes at the 4 would be just what we need.  We could be in real trouble rebounding next year. A PF that can play 20 mins might be the Diff of us making the tournament or not.  S Taylor is going to get minutes but he will need a year to add weight.   I agree having 3 bigs in one class is a problem but better to have it then the other option. 


Of course the risk to MU is that he goes elsewhere after his one Juco year.  The risk to Durley is an injury or that he plays poorly.

I'd just bring him here and have him practice everyday with Otule and Gardner.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: Jamailman on January 19, 2012, 04:32:55 PM
Yeah, cuz Oden only played about 30 mpg.  A better analogy would be to put Oden on Otule's high school team.  Then I think the answer is probably no.  But I have no idea what Durley's situation is, aside from Ridley being ahead of him.  All I know is that his high school coach was also Otule's, and he said Durley is further along than Chris at the same time, and Buzz trusted him enough (along with his own evaluation) to offer the kid a scholarship.

If I were a coach, and I had Oden and Otule (both D1 caliber centers), they would both be playing at the same time.

If you have 2 D1 players at the same position (at the same age), you'll figure out a way to use them both.

D1 players (even ones like Chris Otule) dominate against most High School players.

With this said, I can't even pretend to know what is going on with Durley.

brewcity77

Quote from: tower912 on January 20, 2012, 09:56:45 AMI'd have taken Anderson.   I'd have taken that big at UWGB.    They don't have to be stars.   The bigs have to keep other bigs from being stars.   Just be able to occupy the other and not get dominated, giving us a chance.   Otule excels at this. 

+17 gazillion

Maybe the best summation out of what we need out of project guys, and why big projects are worth taking fliers on.

Stretchdeltsig

I would think Durely deserves to see some action and not waste away on the bench.  Surely there were other high schools that would love to have him play for them.  Would like to hear the coach talk about the situation.

77ncaachamps

Quote from: 2002MUalum on January 20, 2012, 10:50:36 AM
If I were a coach, and I had Oden and Otule (both D1 caliber centers), they would both be playing at the same time.

If you have 2 D1 players at the same position (at the same age), you'll figure out a way to use them both.

D1 players (even ones like Chris Otule) dominate against most High School players.

With this said, I can't even pretend to know what is going on with Durley.


Someone was a Houston Rockets fan in the 80s. lol
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Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 19, 2012, 07:24:09 PM

Murray, you got any eligibility left?

Yeah, but due to Osteoporosis, I've dropped from 6'10" to just under 5'8".
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

4everwarriors

It's a bitch when everything shrinks proportionally, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MattyWarrior

As of late last year, from the video I saw, with Durley and Ridley playing together he was not even in the mix on plays and backs away from the action. When the ball did roll to him he made a nice pass. He did make it up and down the floor but seemed to have no confidence at all. What happened to the double-double prediction this season for him? He is really big and solid,though!

Stretchdeltsig


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Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 20, 2012, 06:49:55 PM
It's a bitch when everything shrinks proportionally, aina?

Osteoporosis wasn't a problem there, brother!
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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