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RJax55

Quote from: MU82 on January 05, 2012, 01:01:47 PM
that he mostly makes his FTs (which puts him in the minority on this team)

That's not the case.

MU is a good FT shooting team. Against GT, MU was 16-20, 80%. For the season, MU is shooting 70% from the line.

We have five guys shooting 70% or better... DJO, Jae, Mayo, J. Wilson & Gardner. Even Blue and Junior are shooting above 65%. These guys represent the overwhelming percentage of minutes played. I wouldn't classify one as a "bad" FT shooter.

tower912

For the record, I like Gardner a lot.  I will agree with everyone listing every virtue he has   He just isn't physically ready to play 30 minutes a game or 10 straight minutes.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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4everwarriors

He's a mid major recruit who you really can't expect any more of since Buzz' style of play is not he strongest attribute.
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i_miss_angelos

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Quote from: lab_warrior on January 05, 2012, 11:57:50 AM
NOPE.  Just about NO ONE on this board, or anyone with functioning brain capacity, is with you.  First, if you can't see he's a really solid contributor on offense, YOU'RE BLIND.  The guy scores points in the post, something we deperately need every game.

First, I never said he didn't contribute on offense.  In fact, I applauded his post game.

Quote from: lab_warrior on January 05, 2012, 11:57:50 AM
Second, that "lazy" accusation--equal parts untrue, a figment of your imagination, and a touch RAYCESS.  Stunningly, a 6'8", 300 lb guy can't run like a guard.  MAYBE BECAUSE HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO.  Please cite ONE PLAY from last night where he was beaten to his spot by Sims.  You can't.  In a related note, you DID see him step into a passing lane 25 feet from the basket to get a steal, right?

It's very inappropriate of you to accuse me of racism.  There IS such a thing as a lazy ballplayer, and it is completely unrelated to race.  Besides, last time I checked, Davante's not the only black player on the team.

And citing a specific play, no, I don't have the film right in front of me.  And I am not just referring to last night's game.  My point was that he commits sloppy fouls and gives points back to the other team as easily as he can score them for us at some times.

Quote from: lab_warrior on January 05, 2012, 11:57:50 AM
In summary, your critiques of DG are "lazy."  

Admittedly, I don't follow the team as closely as most of the posters on here.  Forgive me for destroying your perceived intelligence of all the people on the forum with the exception of myself.  You're entitled to your own opinion, just as I am.  Get off your high horse and let the discussion be opinionated without bashing others for disagreeing with you.

PuertoRicanNightmare

I love Gardner. Brings it every night. Whoever started this thread is a boob.

Les Nessman

I think Gardner is doing a great job. Durley, based on looks alone, seems to be the exact same type of player but much taller. Obviously, seeing as how he isn't getting much playing time on his high school team he will most likely have a much steeper learning curve than Davante. It will be nice to have 2 300 pounders on the low blocks but I don't expect that either will be able to keep up with the run of play for an extended period of time or play more than 25 minutes/ game. I'll be interested to see if Buzz is able to bring in an athletic, more mobile center in the next couple of years.

slingkong

Quote from: RJax55 on January 05, 2012, 01:18:06 PM
We have five guys shooting 70% or better... DJO, Jae, Mayo, J. Wilson & Gardner. Even Blue and Junior are shooting above 65%. These guys represent the overwhelming percentage of minutes played. I wouldn't classify one as a "bad" FT shooter.

70% is marginal and 65% is crap. I'm sure someone will say that both are at or better than the national average. OK, that's fine. Then the national average is crap. Judging one pile of crap based on another pile of crap doesn't make the former a rose.

RJax55

Quote from: slingkong on January 06, 2012, 09:24:18 AM
70% is marginal and 65% is crap. I'm sure someone will say that both are at or better than the national average. OK, that's fine. Then the national average is crap. Judging one pile of crap based on another pile of crap doesn't make the former a rose.

So, what would you consider to be a "non-crap" rate?

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