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esotericmindguy

Quote from: muhs03 on December 20, 2011, 12:24:50 AM
The juco story is tiring. The transfer story is tiring as well.

Not tiring when someone transfers every year. Just the way it is. Just read online his brother is a big time PG recruit, would be nice if it's a package deal.

GGGG

Quote from: Ners on December 20, 2011, 08:41:32 AM
Junior had a few boneheaded moments last night, but I agree that he at least showed some fight and was aggressive going to the hoop.  Mayo did too, although he had a hard time getting there last night.  DJO and Vander were the 2 BIG letdown performers of last night.  Vander was practically invisible on the offensive end - much like he was last year in the Big East.  Seems length and athleticism really neutralize Vander as he doesn't have the solid perimeter game yet..


Vander was struggling offensively, BUT he had 6 rebounds (2nd behind Jae), 3 assists and no turnovers.  And he was strong defensively.  He also ran the point late in the second half when Junior went out.

He is a work in progress, but still way beyond where he was last year.

NersEllenson

Quote from: esotericmindguy on December 20, 2011, 09:09:55 AM
Not tiring when someone transfers every year. Just the way it is. Just read online his brother is a big time PG recruit, would be nice if it's a package deal.

The original poster you quoted is a Syracuse fan...the comment was a dig at MU - about the juco and transfer thing...just an FYI..
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Boone on December 20, 2011, 08:39:16 AM
Seriously, ATL MU Warrior? Ever stop and think about these facts? He hot 3 for 10 (0 for 2 from 3), bricked his only FT attempt and had 1 assist and 2 TOs.
Holy crap look at the box score for all the guards/wings on the team and tell me who, other than DJO (and maybe Vander) played better than Junior last night?

Then, think back to the actual game and try to remember which guard on our team was playing aggresively and actually trying to execute our offensive game plan.  You know, taking it hard to the rim and drawing contact/finishing through contact.

Then, consider that LSU might have done a good job defensively in taking DJO, Vander, Mayo out of the game to make someone else beat us and think back to who was trying to pick up the slack?  That forced him into a role he doesn't normally play, but at least he had the guts to try. 

He wasn't perfect, but he was near the best of a bad bunch last night.  He wasn't nearly as bad as you seem to want to imagine he was. 

wadesworld

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 20, 2011, 07:05:37 AM
Poole would be a great addition, and would be a decent shot to pave the way for his brother Solomon (#9 overall in Rivals 2013) to come take over as that five-star PG we've all been dreaming of. But the only way we have room for both of them is if someone else leaves. Might someone be declaring for the draft early? Maybe not as far-fetched as it sounds. But aside from that, it means someone transferring out.

Huh?  No, that is EXTREMELY far fetched.  What freshman, sophomore, or junior on this team is going to declare for the draft?  I don't want to sound like I'm ripping on this team after a loss, because I think we are a very good team (although I don't think our resume is as impressive as some here think, I think the jury is still out on how good this team truly is...Wisconsin in my opinion is a good win because it was on the road, but they are very overrated this year, and Washington and LSU aren't that great of teams, look at who they've lost to), but there is nobody who should even be thinking about leaving early for the NBA after this season on our team.  Who are you thinking?

- Mayo?  Maybe after his junior year when he is more of a feature of the offense than a 6th man and has added point guard skills.
- Blue?  He's had a very strong start and he has come to understand his role much better, but what NBA team is going to take a strong defender who is very unproven at the point and has absolutely no outside shooting ability.  The problem here is that he struggles against teams like LSU, that have length and don't allow him to just drive and dunk.  Think he'll get by doing that in the NBA?  I don't.  He needs 4 years at Marquette.
- Jamil Wilson?  Jamail Jones?  Chris Otule?  Davante Gardner?  Junior Cadougan?  Derrick Wilson?  Juan Anderson?  Jake Thomas?  Honestly, I don't think I should have had to explain any of these guys.  None of the underclassman are anywhere near ready to make the jump to the NBA.  And that does not mean I do not think they are good players or do not think they will ever make the NBA.  That is still to be seen.

brewcity77

I knew someone would have that reaction ;D

My first thought is maybe Mayo. Mainly because of his age. If he declared after this year, he'd be entering the draft just 6 months younger as a freshman than JFB was as a senior. I think more than anyone, Todd realizes the short window, and if he averages 10-12 ppg and shows enough potential, he might take a flier, even as a bench player. I think he's far more draftable than say a Jereme Richmond from last year. I still think he's better waiting a year, but he's also older than Blue, so if he waits until his junior year he'll be drafted as a 23-year-old. Not at all the ideal age for a NBA rookie, where the average senior declaring is only 22.

Blue is also a possibility. The NBA drafts largely on potential, and if he can average 10/4/4 as a young sophomore, it wouldn't surprise me if he was projected as a late-first to mud-second rounder.

I don't think either should declare, but that doesn't mean one of them won't.

Boone

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ATL MU Warrior, you're doing nothing more than splitting hairs. Pretty lame when your only argument is that our starting upperclassman point guard was our 3rd best perimeter player last nite (he was not better than Vander). Mayo played like a freshman and D. Wilson, by comparison, ALWAYS makes JR look like Kobe Bryant offensively. Plenty of blame to go around, but pardon me for expecting Junior to at least be a competent offensive option at this stage of his career.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: nyg on December 20, 2011, 06:17:13 AM
Even though Poole was a top 30 recruit, MU does not need another SG/SF.  With Mayo, Anderson, Taylor, Blue, Jones and Ferguson, that is enough.  Unless someone has a change of heart after the season.

It is apparent after last night that MU needs a PG, one that actually has some offensive skills.  Look at that freshman Hickey from LSU, he just destroyed Junior on both ends.  Derrick Wilson is a good defensive PG, but has not displayed any offense.  After 11 games, what does he have, like 5 points?  Yes, some will argue that it is not the PG role to score, but some points or an outside scoring chance would be nice.

As far as Durley, who knows, is he still not starting on his high school team?



You know that he's playing behind the number third ranked center and eight ranked player overall in this class, right?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

nycwarrior

This is descending quickly.

Let's turn the focus toward how we build via UWM and Vandy.

Brewtown Andy

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 20, 2011, 10:39:10 AMI think he's far more draftable than say a Jereme Richmond from last year.

There's a 50% chance that I'm more draftable than Jereme Richmond.
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bamamarquettefan

Agree I'd love the transfer. No because we need a switchable this moment, but because every team has unmourned over the season that either sideline - o at least reduce effectiveness of players. I was pretty scary putting 8 players out there, and I don't like having an 11-man roster.

Is he still attending Kentucky now and just hasn't played since 1st semester last year? I don know the rule when the kid transfers in just in time to play as opposed to Maymon actually going to class a Tennessee fo a year before playing.
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Desert_warrior

What is our connection with him? It seems like his transferring here would be out of the blue. Did Buzz try to recruit him or does he have any close ties to Marquette? Just seems strange that he would think about MU.

77ncaachamps

Prolly because he likes how we get up and down the court and play in the Big East.

We need a big guy, an enforcer, a rebounder...

I wish we nabbed God's Gift.
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noblewarrior

I think he played on Aaron Bowen's AAU club in FL when we were recruiting him

brewcity77

Quote from: Desert_warrior on December 22, 2011, 03:37:15 PMWhat is our connection with him? It seems like his transferring here would be out of the blue. Did Buzz try to recruit him or does he have any close ties to Marquette? Just seems strange that he would think about MU.

Could be just him looking around the top-25 programs for the best fit. We have what, 8-10 guys averaging 10+ mpg? And our two most prolific players will be graduating, leaving behind about 58 open mpg. In addition, Buzz seems to be getting a rep as a developer of NBA talent.

He might not fit our biggest need, but I can see the attraction to an outsider.

Ellenson Guerrero

Where did this rumor even come from? I didn't see any links in this thread.
"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

THEultimateWARRIOR

Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on December 22, 2011, 11:11:19 PM
Where did this rumor even come from? I didn't see any links in this thread.
Seriously wheres the sources at? The only thing i've found is.....

https://twitter.com/#!/Wildcatty11/statuses/148977576625451008

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