AZ, CT, FL, but not WI

[SoCalEagle]

Random thoughts:

3 out of 4 of the "big state schools" advanced tonight, but not WI. 

Also, just realized tonight that MU was the only Catholic school to advance to the Sweet 16 this year.  That's got to be a rarity - seems like there are almost always multiple Catholic schools.   

After tonight, MU is 1 of 3 private schools left in the tournament (along with Richmond and Butler). 

Looking forward to tomorrow's game.  Gooooooo Marquette.

[Stuckin1977]

None of those 4 are state schools

[TJ]

None of those 4 are state schools

The University of Arizona, The University of Connecticut, the University of Florida, & The University of Wisconsin - Madison are not state schools?

[Stuckin1977]

The University of Arizona, The University of Connecticut, the University of Florida, & The University of Wisconsin - Madison are not state schools?

To be a "state" school you must have the word "state" in the name.  Michigan State, Florida State, etc.  What makes them state schools is that they're land grant schools and have an emphasis on land subjects like farming.  Anything else is just a public school.

[Warriors10]

To be a "state" school you must have the word "state" in the name.  Michigan State, Florida State, etc.  What makes them state schools is that they're land grant schools and have an emphasis on land subjects like farming.  Anything else is just a public school.

This was totally necessary

[MUinSF]

To be a "state" school you must have the word "state" in the name.  Michigan State, Florida State, etc.  What makes them state schools is that they're land grant schools and have an emphasis on land subjects like farming.  Anything else is just a public school.

I thought land grant vs. non-land grant might be where you were going, yet among these schools only UNC is not a land-grant university, if I'm not mistaken.

[cj111]

Not all land grant schools are state schools and not all schools with "state" in the title are are land grant schools.  The University of Connecticut is indeed a land grant university, as are Florida and Wisconsin and Arizona (and Kentucky, Tennessee, and Cornell, among many others).  And UNC is a state school too, even if it isn't a land grant institution.  The employees are state employees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_land-grant_universities

[StillAWarrior]

Not all land grant schools are state schools and not all schools with "state" in the title are are land grant schools.  The University of Connecticut is indeed a land grant university, as are Florida and Wisconsin and Arizona (and Kentucky, Tennessee, and Cornell, among many others).  And UNC is a state school too, even if it isn't a land grant institution.  The employees are state employees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_land-grant_universities

This is a much better answer on the technicalities than I would have (or could have) offered.  I was thinking more along the lines of just pointing out that in common usage many people use "state school" and "public school" interchangeably.  In other words, "you know what he meant."

[MUinSF]

Not all land grant schools are state schools and not all schools with "state" in the title are are land grant schools.  The University of Connecticut is indeed a land grant university, as are Florida and Wisconsin and Arizona (and Kentucky, Tennessee, and Cornell, among many others).  And UNC is a state school too, even if it isn't a land grant institution.  The employees are state employees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_land-grant_universities

Cornell's land-grant status is great trivia. An Ivy League school with a land-grant component is just bizarre. (And I recall from my application there that communications programs somehow got housed in the life sciences, which fell under the state-funded portion of the university, and thus -- lower tuition!)

[MUMac]

Wow, people will argue about anything.  I took the OP to mean the "big" public universities in their respective state.  Sticking with the Ohio State University, tOSU is bigger in Ohio than Ohio University.  Florida is bigger in Florida than Florida State or Miami ...  Not the name of the unviversity, not the land grant ...  Bigger to the general populace of the state.  The one that more people in that state allign to.

[cj111]

Yeah, my wife says I will argue about anything, too.

[MUinSF]

Wow, people will argue about anything.  I took the OP to mean the "big" public universities in their respective state.  Sticking with the Ohio State University, tOSU is bigger in Ohio than Ohio University.  Florida is bigger in Florida than Florida State or Miami ...  Not the name of the unviversity, not the land grant ...  Bigger to the general populace of the state.  The one that more people in that state allign t

I think for pretty much everyone "state schools" means state-funded schools. So almost every school that sounds like one, is. It does get weird, though, that, for example, that the University of Miami is private, while Miami University is a state school; the University of Detroit is private, and the University of Cincinnati is public. Oh, and then the University of California is in California, and California University is in Pennsylvania.

[brewcity77]

Wow, people will argue about anything.  I took the OP to mean the "big" public universities in their respective state.  Sticking with the Ohio State University, tOSU is bigger in Ohio than Ohio University.  Florida is bigger in Florida than Florida State or Miami ...  Not the name of the unviversity, not the land grant ...  Bigger to the general populace of the state.  The one that more people in that state allign to.

In the "some people will argue about anything" mold, I'm not sure about that regarding Florida. Head down to the southern part of the state and it's all Miami, while Florida State owns the north and I would say has at least equal support all the way down to Orlando. tOSU is a fine example, but the state of Florida is different in that regard. I can't say I'm an expert in all places, but I've lived in rural central Florida and have family all over the state. I'd guess the fan bases are maybe 35% Florida, 35% FSU, 30% Miami. It's pretty close.

[MUinSF]

In the "some people will argue about anything" mold, I'm not sure about that regarding Florida. Head down to the southern part of the state and it's all Miami, while Florida State owns the north and I would say has at least equal support all the way down to Orlando. tOSU is a fine example, but the state of Florida is different in that regard. I can't say I'm an expert in all places, but I've lived in rural central Florida and have family all over the state. I'd guess the fan bases are maybe 35% Florida, 35% FSU, 30% Miami. It's pretty close.

I could look this up and be positive, but I'm pretty sure I read that FSU was an all-women's school focused on education (may even have been called something along the lines of Florida Normal something) till as late as the '60s. The Miami breakdown is surprising, as I'd kind of think a private school would struggle to develop a fan base in a state with two nationally known state universities with top-flight sports.

[Stuckin1977]

In the "some people will argue about anything" mold, I'm not sure about that regarding Florida. Head down to the southern part of the state and it's all Miami, while Florida State owns the north and I would say has at least equal support all the way down to Orlando. tOSU is a fine example, but the state of Florida is different in that regard. I can't say I'm an expert in all places, but I've lived in rural central Florida and have family all over the state. I'd guess the fan bases are maybe 35% Florida, 35% FSU, 30% Miami. It's pretty close.

I'll buy that.  I definitely wouldn't think that the state of Florida is all UF all the time, as Florida State has a pretty storied tradition on its own.  Miami was on the verge of being shut down until it was turned around in the early 80s but has had a strong fan base ever since.

[MUMac]

In the "some people will argue about anything" mold, I'm not sure about that regarding Florida. Head down to the southern part of the state and it's all Miami, while Florida State owns the north and I would say has at least equal support all the way down to Orlando. tOSU is a fine example, but the state of Florida is different in that regard. I can't say I'm an expert in all places, but I've lived in rural central Florida and have family all over the state. I'd guess the fan bases are maybe 35% Florida, 35% FSU, 30% Miami. It's pretty close.

Having lived in Florida for many years, yes, I hold by the comment.  It would go Florida, FSU, Miami - in that order. 

[Blackhat]

Central Florida is huge too,  56,000 students, probably not as far as fan base yet, not much success athletically.    Prediction:  Future powerhouse in sports.

[Skatastrophy]

Central Florida is huge too,  56,000 students, probably not as far as fan base yet, not much success athletically.    Prediction:  Future powerhouse in sports.

Aren't they the largest university in the US?  I mean besides Phoenix Online University?

[Blackhat]

Arizona State has them beat by 2k students.

[MUMac]

Central Florida is huge too,  56,000 students, probably not as far as fan base yet, not much success athletically.    Prediction:  Future powerhouse in sports.

Central Florida was similar to UWM for much of it's history.  It has two Wisconsin influences - Frank Lloyd Wright and Torchy Clark.  They were D2 for much of it's history, and why they are not in the same group as the big 3 (USF is not either).

FSU came into prominence in Florida when Bowden got things going at FSU, which coincided with Galen Hall getting Florida on probation. 

There are pockets of the state that may go differently, but on the whole, Florida is the one in higher regard.

[SacWarrior]

Wow. This is such a great thread.

[MUMac]

Wow. This is such a great thread.

Much better now that you joined it.   

[SacWarrior]

Much better now that you joined it.   

Anything to help.

Seriously what is the point of this thread? And tagging on a Marquette paragraph doesn't mean it doesn't belong in Superbar anyway.