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Quote from: NickelDimer on February 07, 2011, 10:44:15 AM
Yeah, this certainly is not a no-brainer.  If he's genuinely interested in coming to MU Buzz is going to have a very tough decision.

I'm pretty firmly in the other camp...I think it's a very easy decision for Buzz.  I absolutely don't think he should take him.  As a general matter, I'm not a big fan of one-and-done players -- even if they only use a scholarship for one year.  However, I'd make an exception when they're John Wall-type talents coming out of HS (assuming there are not character concerns).  I really am hard-pressed to think of a situation when I'd be willing to trade two years of scholarship for a one-and-done.  Lucious is not even close, in my opinion (even if he has recommitted himself).
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

GGGG

Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 07, 2011, 11:06:25 AM
I really am hard-pressed to think of a situation when I'd be willing to trade two years of scholarship for a one-and-done.


Robert Jackson was definately worth it.  I would have traded four years of scholarship for his senior year.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 07, 2011, 11:10:40 AM

Robert Jackson was definately worth it.  I would have traded four years of scholarship for his senior year.

I can't argue with that.  These things are much, much easier in hindsight...especially if the player was the "missing piece" for a FF run.
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on February 06, 2011, 02:07:22 PM


Remember, when Crean brought in Acker a lot of people called it the dumbest move in America and that it showed no confidence in his current stable of horses. The strange ones sometimes work out.

Acker was brought in to be a 5-10 minute a game guy backing up James for two years, then be a 5-10 minute a game back up for the guy that replaced James (Tyshawn Taylor) for one year. By definition calling any decision about a player brought in to be a benchwarmer/backup the "dumbest move in America" or a no confidence vote on our starters is basketball stupid.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on February 07, 2011, 09:30:35 AM

HEY!!!!Get off my back!

I4 definately doesn't get enough sh!t from us about the Niv signing.  that needs to change.

BCHoopster

The problem is having only 3 scholarships for the next two years.  If you are not able to pick up Todd Mayo then maybe
Korie can grab one of the two schoolies left this year.  You have to know where you stand with your 2012 players as well.
One left, so I do not see Korie getting that one, secondly do you really need 13 players on your team?  Buzz only plays
9, that will not change.  I think you only need 11 or 12 tops per year, otherwise transfers will be order.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 07, 2011, 11:10:40 AM

Robert Jackson was definately worth it.  I would have traded four years of scholarship for his senior year.

I think we did given the lackluster seasons in 03-04, and 04-05 (plus his redshirt and playing year).

brewcity77

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 07, 2011, 11:10:40 AMRobert Jackson was definately worth it.  I would have traded four years of scholarship for his senior year.

But at least Jackson showed the promise. He was a 12/7 player before he came to Marquette. Lucious hasn't put up anywhere near those numbers.

If it was a guy like Bryce Cartwright from Iowa, averaging 11 ppg and 5.5 apg in a power conference, then I think he would be worth a look. I'd even say it'd be worth looking at a guy like Hank Thorns at TCU, averaging 10 ppg and 6.4 apg. Despite being in a smaller conference, he's put up numbers worth looking at, and you could realistically expect either of those guys to put up 10-13 ppg and 6-7 apg as a senior, which are numbers good enough to be among the top of point guards in the Big East.

Lucious simply doesn't have those numbers. He may have been a consensus top 100 recruit, but he hasn't proven to be anywhere near that valuable as an actual player in his 2.5 years at MSU, and that's not even accounting for the character issues that got him kicked off the team.

NickelDimer

Hmmm, not a fan of this quote at all.  Translation: I have one more year to audition for scouts.

Quote"I've got one more year to show what I can do. This is my last go-around," Lucious said. "I've just got to find the right place where I come in and be able to show my talents."

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/115398264.html
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bilsu

Singleton does not have Buyckes' offensive ability, but he has better point guard skills and a higher basketball IQ. This years team could use another bigman, but what it really needs is Travis Diener, Dominic James, Tony Miller, etc..

radome

Former Michigan State guard Korie Lucious is transferring to Iowa State and will continue his college basketball career playing under Fred Hoiberg, a source told CBSSports.com on Wednesday.

Tom Izzo dismissed Lucious from Michgian State in late January for what was described as conduct detrimental to the program. Lucious visited Iowa State in February and will now join former teammate Chris Allen -- who left Michigan State in the preseason -- as a member of the Cyclones.

Lucious was averaging 6.5 points and 4.1 assists at the time of his dismissal.

Pakuni

Quote from: radome on March 02, 2011, 04:31:59 PM
Former Michigan State guard Korie Lucious is transferring to Iowa State and will continue his college basketball career playing under Fred Hoiberg, a source told CBSSports.com on Wednesday.

Tom Izzo dismissed Lucious from Michgian State in late January for what was described as conduct detrimental to the program. Lucious visited Iowa State in February and will now join former teammate Chris Allen -- who left Michigan State in the preseason -- as a member of the Cyclones.

Lucious was averaging 6.5 points and 4.1 assists at the time of his dismissal.


Lucious, Allen, Royce White.
Ames is becoming the Island of Misfit Toys.

brewcity77

Quote from: Pakuni on March 02, 2011, 04:43:23 PM
Lucious, Allen, Royce White.
Ames is becoming the Island of Misfit Toys.

+1000

This made me laugh out loud, literally. Glad this rumor is over. Lucious was never a good fit here. I'd much rather see us ink Todd Mayo  8-)

Tugg Speedman

Maybe not Lucious ... but If Tyshawn Taylor was going to transfer, would you go for him?  (I realize it looks like he won't transfer, just trying to gauge how good they have to be to tie up two year for one.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 02, 2011, 04:50:43 PM
Maybe not Lucious ... but If Tyshawn Taylor was going to transfer, would you go for him?  (I realize it looks like he won't transfer, just trying to gauge how good they have to be to tie up two year for one.

Is he transferring to Arkansas?

mutrainer71

I'd take him as a walk on for two years.  Otherwise its not worth it for all the reasons already mentioned.


Tugg Speedman

Lucious is transferring to Arkansas in time for Buzz to move and coach him?

Tugg Speedman

Listening to ESPN radio and they just reported that Luscious is transferring to Iowa State.  What a shock!

Doris Burkes Thong

With Fred Hoiberg at the helm I thought we would see a more traditional looking line-up at ISU. What the hell is going on?

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on March 02, 2011, 10:29:34 PM
With Fred Hoiberg at the helm I thought we would see a more traditional looking line-up at ISU. What the hell is going on?

Hopefully (for ISU), nothing more than short term roster patching.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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