Nova fans don't want Jay Wright anymore

[Marquette84]

They are one Keno Davis away from obscurity. Much like us.

Not fair to blame Davis.  PC's decline came under Tim Welsh.  Davis faced a massive rebuilding project.

+1. Jay Wright has done a great job and he is a class act.

Was he a class act when he got Villanova hit with NCAA sanctions for his recruiting violations?  Funny how some guys get a pass, yet others are tagged cheaters for life

Evidently, when the author says "offensively challenged" he/she means "can't hit a jump shot."

Last time I checked, a jump shot and a layup both count as two points.  Sheesh, where's Gene Hackman with a tape measure when you need him?

I think the comment is based on the observation that we have only one effective offensive style, and when that doesn't work, we're challenged to score.  Even in games we've won (e.g. @UConn) we've often had long stretches of offensive futility.

When another team takes us out of our normal offense, we look terrible (St. Johns, USF)

[GGGG]

Was he a class act when he got Villanova hit with NCAA sanctions for his recruiting violations?  Funny how some guys get a pass, yet others are tagged cheaters for life

Because they were relatively minor, he was upfront about them, and they happened about eight years ago with no repeat offenses.

[Spotcheck Billy]

well Philadelphia area fans do have a rep to keep up

[Marquette84]

Because they were relatively minor, he was upfront about them, and they happened about eight years ago with no repeat offenses.

Minor?  Not according to the NCAA.

"Although the violations might have been deemed secondary if considered on an individual basis, the committee concluded that, "in combination, the violations caused this case to rise to the level of 'major' in nature."

[NersEllenson]

This is post is SOOOOOOOOO necessary.  Sitting back in your chair, thinking to yourself, "ZING!  Take that CBB.  Boo yah, I'm awesome."

Not really - just pointing out that others can also see the game of basketball as does CBB - that lack of "traditional players"/quality jump shooting, translates into bad offense - when the reality is, that isn't necessarily true...as evidenced by our overall offensive efficiency ratings.

[Lennys Tap]

Not fair to blame Davis.  PC's decline came under Tim Welsh.  Davis faced a massive rebuilding project.

As Pakuni pointed out, Keno Davis inherited 5 returning starters, Jamine Peterson (who he inexplicably redshirted) and Marshon Brooks among others. He was handed a decent team and has "rebuilt" it into a crappy one.

[El Duderino]

As Pakuni pointed out, Keno Davis inherited 5 returning starters, Jamine Peterson (who he inexplicably redshirted) and Marshon Brooks among others. He was handed a decent team and has "rebuilt" it into a crappy one.

I'd be most troubled by the fact that Davis can't seem to get his kids to consistently play hard, particularly on defense.

College coaches are going to miss on recruits sometimes, especially at non-elite programs. Not being able to get the kids you have as a coach though to play hard and tough is something i'd see as a very bad sign.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Some fans are just plain stupid.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Id take Buzz over Wright any friggin day of the week

Was that supposed to be in teal?

[ChicosBailBonds]

But Nova wasn't exactly a bad program either. Lappas did some damage and had some NBA players in and out.

You might be seeing Wright 10 years ago in Buzz. There's a growing crew of Nova supporters who feel some stagnancy might be setting in. This is what happens when you don't run an offense and put all your faith in a lead guard to create -- when they can't create anymore, your team sucks.

Wright was a solid mid-major coach as well, that would be a big difference between him and Buzz.

Took over a losing Hofstra program, they stuck with him after 3 losing years and then turned them into a tournament team 3 straight years (NIT, NCAA, NCAA).  Took over a Nova program that was sputtering and revived them.

I'd take him in a heartbeat and so would 99% of programs in the country.

[NersEllenson]

Wright was a solid mid-major coach as well, that would be a big difference between him and Buzz.

Took over a losing Hofstra program, they stuck with him after 3 losing years and then turned them into a tournament team 3 straight years (NIT, NCAA, NCAA).  Took over a Nova program that was sputtering and revived them.

I'd take him in a heartbeat and so would 99% of programs in the country.

Fortunately for us, Buzz is proving to be a solid high major coach.  Actually pretty flattering to read the Nova board and hear one of their fans specifically state they'd prefer Buzz Williams as their coach.  Obviously, Buzz has a long way to go to accomplish what Jay Wright has - but 3 years in - pretty good returns.  Jim Calhoun certainly seemed to think so last year.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Fortunately for us, Buzz is proving to be a solid high major coach.  Actually pretty flattering to read the Nova board and hear one of their fans specifically state they'd prefer Buzz Williams as their coach.  Obviously, Buzz has a long way to go to accomplish what Jay Wright has - but 3 years in - pretty good returns.  Jim Calhoun certainly seemed to think so last year.

You find that everywhere.  Go to the Oklahoma boards and you have people there willing to wash Buzz's jock strap with their spit while other fans there think he's crooked and a poor coach.  Same with some other boards.  That's just the nature of the Internet message boards.

Look how many experts on this site said Mike Brey should be fired...let alone the experts on the Notre Dame site.  There are millions of these examples.  From recall, I still only remember one person here ever saying he wanted Buzz fired and I suspect the true reality is that no one (or one \ two idiots) at Nova want the same to happen with Wright.

[4everwarriors]

One wants Buzz Williams.

http://villanova.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1159&tid=142764223&mid=142764223&sid=1000&style=2

Isn't everyone in Philly creaming themselves to pry Crean away from Bloomington?

[El Duderino]

Any Nova fan that would even remotely consider thinking the program would be better off if Wright was fired is a complete moron. I suspect though that the vast majority of Nova fans understand how good of a coach he is. There just are morons in every fan base that simply don't grasp how hard it is to win consistently in a conference like the Big East and if they were the AD, they'd ruin their program via kneejerk reactions and unrealistic expectations.

When you look at any of the major conferences in college basketball, it's largely the strength or weakness of coaching in the leagues that dictates which leagues are consistently upper tier. Looking at the Big East

Wright
Boeheim
Dixon
Patino
Huggins
Thompson
Calhoun

All of them are proven winners, quality coaches, and good recruiters.

Then you have

Brey-- Not as accomplished as the guys above, but he's done a very solid job overall IMO and this year is his best team since taking over.

Buzz-- A very impressive beginning to his career at Marquette and hopefully more experience will provide for consistently good results.

Lavin-- Had success at UCLA. Is having a great season this year at St. John's, but it is a senior laden squad. Lavin was a good recruiter though at UCLA and the city of NY will have plenty of talent for him to draw in players.

Cronin-- He had a bad start to his tenure at Cincinnati, but they are 22-6 this year and maybe he's got things turned around.

There are a lot of quality head coaches in the Big East and that bodes well for the conference remaining top 3 at worst in any given season. If Lavin can return St. John's into being a consistent NCAA Tournament team most years and Buzz can keep getting Marquette there on a near every year basis to go with those top seven guys i started with, it would be hard to argue that any other conference could match the Big East for coaching talent. Granted, the Big East has more teams than other conferences, but that doesn't change how many quality coaches the Big East has.

The Big Ten has a nice stable of coaches with Izzo, Ryan, Painter, Matta, and Weber. Crean and Tubby also have had success at previous stops, but so far have been disappointments in their current jobs. I really expected the Big Ten to be a very good conference this year, but MSU and Minnesota have really underachieved their preseason expectations. That said, i do think the level of coaches in the Big Ten is better than it's been in awhile, especially if Crean and/or Tubby can get consistently good results for their programs going forward.