[Rosiak's Blog] MU, UWM open to continuing series

[muwarrior69]

I watched the game on SNY. It was a little nastalgic for me to see us playing on our "home" court. Could almost see Al working the refs.

[jaybilaswho?]

I've argued for years that we should play Loyola-Chicago, St. Louis, U of Detroit and/or other smaller Jesuit schools instead of some of these cupcakes. At least those schools have a similar mission and if we're going to "help" a program by playing them we should play other Jesuit schools.

I was in St. Louis for the holiday weekend and went to the SLU/IUPUI game saturday afternoon (pleasantly enough it was 'Easy' Ed Macauley day). I got into a discussion with someone there about a possible SLU/MU match up. They said that Majerus and SLU want to play MU and that it is MU that doesn't want to do it. Now, the source cannot be said to be credible, but if this is the case... I cannot think of a reason why we wouldn't want to play SLU (regardless of 1 and 1 or 2 and 1 series).

Anyone have any inside scoop on this?

Is it because they are a mid level team in the A-10 that could possibly pull a win out and we wouldnt want to expose ourselves to this possible embarrasment? Is it maybe because going to SLU wouldn't be financially attractive enough for us? The place holds 10,600 (IUPUI attendance was 5558- on a holiday weekend with no students; not that SLU ever has a good student turnout).

[4everwarriors]

May be repayment for the BF'ing Rick laid on MU.

[groove]

There is a reason why most programs that are in our position do not play little brother on their home court, let alone once every 3 games like they're talking about.  There will always be exceptions, but most are wise enough not to do it.  Apparently we aren't wise enough.

+1 No reason at all to play them. I hate that we buckled under pressure from outsiders.

[Brewtown Andy]

I was in St. Louis for the holiday weekend and went to the SLU/IUPUI game saturday afternoon (pleasantly enough it was 'Easy' Ed Macauley day). I got into a discussion with someone there about a possible SLU/MU match up. They said that Majerus and SLU want to play MU and that it is MU that doesn't want to do it. Now, the source cannot be said to be credible, but if this is the case... I cannot think of a reason why we wouldn't want to play SLU (regardless of 1 and 1 or 2 and 1 series).

Anyone have any inside scoop on this?

Is it because they are a mid level team in the A-10 that could possibly pull a win out and we wouldnt want to expose ourselves to this possible embarrasment? Is it maybe because going to SLU wouldn't be financially attractive enough for us? The place holds 10,600 (IUPUI attendance was 5558- on a holiday weekend with no students; not that SLU ever has a good student turnout).

We played a home & home with Dayton several years back.  I really don't see a difference between Dayton & SLU.

[Nukem2]

Not what I said.  If we insist on continuing to play this series, then they should ALL BE AT HOME.  We should play them at their place when they get good enough to warrant it.

It's not a matter of recruiting, it's a matter that ONLY bad things can happen from this series.  There is no upside at all, but plenty of downside.

Of course, you can say that only bad things can happen from playing any non-BCS school either home or away.  In the end, the games are going to happen, though the economics amy well be adjusted?

[jaybilaswho?]

We played a home & home with Dayton several years back.  I really don't see a difference between Dayton & SLU.

And there is more of a connection between MU and SLU [Majerus; Jesuit Univ's; heavy student recruiting efforst by both Univ's in each others city; old C-USA opponents] than there is with Dayton... unless I am missing something.

[MUfan12]

And there is more of a connection between MU and SLU [Majerus; Jesuit Univ's; heavy student recruiting efforst by both Univ's in each others city; old C-USA opponents] than there is with Dayton... unless I am missing something.

There's some bad blood with Dayton. Gregory broke off that home and home series we had. Doubt we'll see them on the schedule anytime soon.

[SalsaMan]

May be repayment for the BF'ing Rick laid on MU.

Is this the infamous Steamer Incident?

[SalsaMan]

Crean was an idiot

First honest and correct statement made by the Bail Bondsman

[El Duderino]

So we'll only play UW-M when they're in a national championship?  Doesn't that defeat the purpose of a cupcake?  And I can't imagine that we're helping UW-M build their program much by hammering them every season.  Wouldn't think there are too many top-500 recruits sitting around, watching that game, and thinking "I could really put that UW-M team over the top."  Maybe I'm wrong, though.

I just see it as a really cheap cupcake (no travel expenses) that draws a large crowd.  Until they actually win a game, I don't see it as much riskier than scheduling Prairie View A&M.

You're not wrong

If a local recruit is good enough to draw the interest of Buzz Williams and Marquette, that kid isn't going to think hmmmm, maybe i'll accept that offer from UWM instead vs playing in the Big East, packed houses at the BC, and national television MU games on ESPN.

Obviously the terms of any new deal would have to be very favorable towards Marquette or then tell UWM tough crap. If though they'll accept some sort of 4-1 or 5-1 ratio for MU home games, then i'd be for keeping UWM on the schedule vs some other should be easy win type of team.

[Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup]

I was in St. Louis for the holiday weekend and went to the SLU/IUPUI game saturday afternoon (pleasantly enough it was 'Easy' Ed Macauley day). I got into a discussion with someone there about a possible SLU/MU match up. They said that Majerus and SLU want to play MU and that it is MU that doesn't want to do it. Now, the source cannot be said to be credible, but if this is the case... I cannot think of a reason why we wouldn't want to play SLU (regardless of 1 and 1 or 2 and 1 series).

Anyone have any inside scoop on this?

Is it because they are a mid level team in the A-10 that could possibly pull a win out and we wouldnt want to expose ourselves to this possible embarrasment? Is it maybe because going to SLU wouldn't be financially attractive enough for us? The place holds 10,600 (IUPUI attendance was 5558- on a holiday weekend with no students; not that SLU ever has a good student turnout).

No inside scoop for you but I did have the opportunity to speak with Majerus for a bit when I was at SLU Law School last year. This is pretty consistent with what he said, that they want to play MU and DePaul and neither school will put them on the schedule. Probably because they have a higher opinion of their program than their true place.

I mean, MU only put UWM on the schedule when they finally agreed to a 4 and 1.  If SLU is asking for anything more than that, they're delusional, which unfortunately, was a symptom I saw among too many people working at that University.

Comparing Dayton-MU in '03 and SLU-MU in '10 is Apples and oranges because it misses the very obvious point that at the time of the Dayton series, we were in Conference USA, and now we're in the Big East and frankly, need a couple more cupcakes if we want to get to 20-22 wins each campaign.