McIlvaine & Chones need your vote!!

[WildBill77RT]

With the announcement of a Racine County Sports Hall of Fame (Racine, WI), there is a poll on the front page of the local paper.

While the poll does not determine who is the inaugural inductee, maybe we can sway public opinion.

Candidates:
John Clay
Sojna Henning
Caron Butler
Jim Chones
Brent Moss
Kevin Barry
Jim McIlvaine
Tony Romo

Vote early, refresh, and then vote often!

www.journaltimes.com   Poll on left side of home page.

[WildBill77RT]

Got Jimmy Mac off to a fast start, btw 

[reinko]

Vote refresh, ya say?

Nerds...UNITE!

[brewcity77]

Jimmy Mac leads the current standings, looks like Chones and Romo are the main competition. Let's keep the voting going!

John Clay (Park football) 3.39%  (4 votes)
Sonja Henning (Horlick girls basketball) 9.32% (11 votes)
Caron Butler (Park boys basketball) 5.93% (7 votes)
Jim Chones (Park/St. Catherine's boys basketball) 18.64% (22 votes)
Brent Moss (Park football) 0% (0 votes)
Kevin Barry (Park football) 4.24% (5 votes)
Jim McIlvaine (St. Catherine's basketball) 28.81% (34 votes)
Tony Romo (Burlington football) 20.34% (24 votes)
Other 9.32% (11 votes)

[NersEllenson]

Tony Romo should win this vote HANDS DOWN, with Caron Butler 2nd...if we are going off of the best player to ever come out of that area.  Love Jimmy Mac, but he was an NBA bust - Butler and Romo have both been All-Star/Pro Bowl caliber players..

[WildBill77RT]

Also, went back and threw in a vote or two for Mr. Chones.  Being born after Chones retired from the NBA, I just connect with Jimmy Mac more actually seeing him play.

[Sir Lawrence]

I like Jim McIlvaine as much as the next MU fan, but, as that same fan, why wouldn't we be voting for Chones?  

[WildBill77RT]

I like Jim McIlvaine as much as the next MU fan, but, as that same fan, why wouldn't we be voting for Chones?  

Title changed.  Added some exclamation points for effect too.

[romey]

I like Jim McIlvaine as much as the next MU fan, but, as that same fan, why wouldn't we be voting for Chones?  

Chones should blow away Jimmy mac, but it's a generational thing.

[ChicosBailBonds]

With the announcement of a Racine County Sports Hall of Fame (Racine, WI), there is a poll on the front page of the local paper.

While the poll does not determine who is the inaugural inductee, maybe we can sway public opinion.

Candidates:
John Clay
Sojna Henning
Caron Butler
Jim Chones
Brent Moss
Kevin Barry
Jim McIlvaine
Tony Romo

Vote early, refresh, and then vote often!

www.journaltimes.com   Poll on left side of home page.

How can you not vote for coke snorting Badger Brent Moss?

[GGGG]

With the announcement of a Racine County Sports Hall of Fame (Racine, WI), there is a poll on the front page of the local paper.

While the poll does not determine who is the inaugural inductee, maybe we can sway public opinion.

Candidates:
John Clay
Sojna Henning

I was trying to figure out what connection the figure skater from Norway had with Racine...but that's Sonja Henie...

[ChicosBailBonds]

Chones is leading, followed by Romo

[MUEng92]

I was trying to figure out what connection the figure skater from Norway had with Racine...but that's Sonja Henie...

Ha, I assumed it was the figure skater too.  I didn't know the skater was from Norway.  Of course the main reason I have heard of the skater is from the phrase, "Sonia Henie's tutu" and I have no idea where I heard that.

[Nukem2]

Chonesey all the way...

[leever]

Jim Chones was by far the better player, although he did cost us a shot at a national title when he left for the ABA (with Al's blessing).

[martyconlonontherun]

Moss should have heavy consideration. He led a team to a huge Rose Bowl victory. If you put his legal problems aside only Chones, Romo, Mac, and Butler went further with there careers.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Moss should have heavy consideration. He led a team to a huge Rose Bowl victory. If you put his legal problems aside only Chones, Romo, Mac, and Butler went further with there careers.

Sorry, the guy should never have been on the college gridiron.  I would hear interviews with him (and later with Ron Dayne) and absolutely cringe. 

And to this day, I have never seen a team turnover the ball 6 times and still have a chance to win it in the closing seconds.  5 fumbles and an interception and UCLA still driving for the winning score at the end.  Watching Wayne Cook scramble at the 15 yard line instead of throwing it away and giving UCLA another 2 or 3 plays.  Talk about UCLA as a choking dog....literally giving the game away all day.

[martyconlonontherun]

Sorry, the guy should never have been on the college gridiron.  I would hear interviews with him (and later with Ron Dayne) and absolutely cringe. 

And to this day, I have never seen a team turnover the ball 6 times and still have a chance to win it in the closing seconds.  5 fumbles and an interception and UCLA still driving for the winning score at the end.  Watching Wayne Cook scramble at the 15 yard line instead of throwing it away and giving UCLA another 2 or 3 plays.  Talk about UCLA as a choking dog....literally giving the game away all day.

So a Rose Bowl MVP shouldn't be considered for a Hall of Fame cause he's dumb? Maybe I'm not the purist of some people, but I think sports accolades should be based on his performance. I, for one, think it is a shame that Bush was forced to give back his Heisman. You can't rewrite history. He played those games and was still a college student. Money had had nothing to do with him avoiding tacklers.

[ChicosBailBonds]

So a Rose Bowl MVP shouldn't be considered for a Hall of Fame cause he's dumb? Maybe I'm not the purist of some people, but I think sports accolades should be based on his performance. I, for one, think it is a shame that Bush was forced to give back his Heisman. You can't rewrite history. He played those games and was still a college student. Money had had nothing to do with him avoiding tacklers.

Correct, you can't re-write history, but then again if the NCAA rules were followed, would Reggie Bush have attended USC without the payola?  Etc, etc?  That's part of the problem.  Certainly what he did on the field was spectacular, but I generally have a higher view of athletes that are taking a decent class load, not having all the skids greased, etc.  Too many people, IMO, forget that these guys with all the extra perks don't have a worry in the world.  No financial worries, no class worries (someone's doing the work for them), etc....while some poor schlep at Stanford is having to bust his balls in the classroom, has to worry about paying for the laundry and still perform on the field.

[martyconlonontherun]

Correct, you can't re-write history, but then again if the NCAA rules were followed, would Reggie Bush have attended USC without the payola?  Etc, etc?  That's part of the problem.  Certainly what he did on the field was spectacular, but I generally have a higher view of athletes that are taking a decent class load, not having all the skids greased, etc.  Too many people, IMO, forget that these guys with all the extra perks don't have a worry in the world.  No financial worries, no class worries (someone's doing the work for them), etc....while some poor schlep at Stanford is having to bust his balls in the classroom, has to worry about paying for the laundry and still perform on the field.

True but for every Bonds, Bush, Webber, you have 15 guys that got away with it. I've heard stories of Hershel Walker and older guys swimming in dirty money while they were choosing colleges. I know in real life only the person who gets caught are the ones punished. But I see too many people blindly think everyone else runs a clean ship.

So Greg Oden didn't have any worries. He knew he would get paid soon enough and attended history of Rock N Roll. That makes him a college athlete?

[HouWarrior]

Sonja Henning played at Horlick and on an ncaa BB champ team at Stanford. In WNBA, she played on a Houston Comets world champ team.

Sonja Henie blows away all of them on this list-- but likely never  heard of Racine, except while in Hollywood, Orson Welles (Racine's most famous)  may have brought it up--lol. Sonja was a Norwegian figure skater and American actress. She was a three-time Olympic Champion (1928, 1932, 1936), a ten-time World Champion (1927–1936) and a six-time European Champion (1931–1936). Henie won more Olympic and World titles than any other ladies figure skater. At the height of her acting career she was one of the highest paid stars in Hollywood.

Hall of fames are a combination of success and notoriety. Having spanned and witnessed all of these, in order, I'd place:
1) Romo
2) Chones
2,a) Butler

then, maybe...
3)McIlvaine
4)Barry
4,a) Henning

Hate to note it, but after the 1st 3, the rest of these are barely known, outside of Wisconsin, so if Racine wishes to avoid appearing provincial, only those on this short list (and Orson Welles--lol), should initially go in.

[GGGG]

Sorry, the guy should never have been on the college gridiron.  I would hear interviews with him (and later with Ron Dayne) and absolutely cringe. 

And to this day, I have never seen a team turnover the ball 6 times and still have a chance to win it in the closing seconds.  5 fumbles and an interception and UCLA still driving for the winning score at the end.  Watching Wayne Cook scramble at the 15 yard line instead of throwing it away and giving UCLA another 2 or 3 plays.  Talk about UCLA as a choking dog....literally giving the game away all day.

Yeah...but UW won...and he was the MVP.  That's that.