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tower912

So, Newbill was the 'hey-if-we're-not-married-to-other-people-by-the-time-we're-30-let's-marry-each-other' recruit.    And he knew it.    And he was willing to risk it.  And plan his life around it.  And it didn't work.   I don't particularly like it, but if Buzz told this kid what was going to happen from day 1 and he signed the LOI anyway......
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Norm

Quote from: tower912 on June 30, 2010, 08:23:36 PM
So, Newbill was the 'hey-if-we're-not-married-to-other-people-by-the-time-we're-30-let's-marry-each-other' recruit.    And he knew it.    And he was willing to risk it.  And plan his life around it.  And it didn't work.   I don't particularly like it, but if Buzz told this kid what was going to happen from day 1 and he signed the LOI anyway......

I guess that's the risk he was taking, but Newbill is an 18 year old and Buzz is almost 40 (I think). I'm sorry, but to me, Buzz should have looked out for Newbill more than he did. If he really didn't think he would make it on Marquette's team if he found another player better than him, then just don't accept the LOI. This could come back to bite Buzz in the butt, especially with recruits in the Philly area.

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: Norm on June 30, 2010, 08:37:21 PM
I guess that's the risk he was taking, but Newbill is an 18 year old and Buzz is almost 40 (I think). I'm sorry, but to me, Buzz should have looked out for Newbill more than he did.

Come on! Newbill may be 18, but I am certain that the others in his circle involved in this are much closer to Buzz's age than they are DJ's. Who signed the damn LOI? Who recommended/allowed him to do so? Now we're blaming Buzz for Newbill and his family/coaches' bad decision?

I will ask for the umpteenth time what Buzz has ever done to lead so many of you to fail to give the benefit of the doubt that he handled this situation in a completely honest and open way?


bma725

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 30, 2010, 07:45:47 PM
Inquisitive minds need to know:

Why did Wilson wait so long to transfer. Seems he was Oregon history as early as mid-March.
Appears most of this crap was avoidable if announced in March and the process went down then. Just axin'.

Oregon is being tough with the releases of the kids they want to keep, hoping that Altman could sway some of them to stay.  He didn't get the job until the end of April, so unless Altman definitely didn't want him there was no way it was going to happen quickly.

Norm

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on June 30, 2010, 08:49:30 PM
Come on! Newbill may be 18, but I am certain that the others in his circle involved in this are much closer to Buzz's age than they are DJ's. Who signed the damn LOI? Who recommended/allowed him to do so? Now we're blaming Buzz for Newbill and his family/coaches' bad decision?

I will ask for the umpteenth time what Buzz has ever done to lead so many of you to fail to give the benefit of the doubt that he handled this situation in a completely honest and open way?


Buzz did not have to send a LOI to Newbill for him to sign, regardless of Newbill's entourage. IF the story that IWB told is close to the truth, then Buzz does deserve some heat over this. It's not the worst thing a coach can do, but I sure wouldn't make a habit of recruiting in this manner.

Buzz is a big boy and had to know how this would be perceived by many followers of the program and Newbill. He seems to be willing to live with it, and if that means taking a little criticism, so be it.

If Buzz himself explains the situation better or someone close to the situation has a different version I'd be more than willing to change my mind.

I still like Buzz and think he has done well at Marquette. I just think the situation with Newbill could have been handled a lot better based on the reports that are out so far.

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: bma725 on June 30, 2010, 08:57:37 PM
Oregon is being tough with the releases of the kids they want to keep, hoping that Altman could sway some of them to stay.  He didn't get the job until the end of April, so unless Altman definitely didn't want him there was no way it was going to happen quickly.

This is nothing more than a theory on my part, but I also suspect Wilson has probably been thinking about it for a while, but the decision became real easy for him a week or so ago when he heard the words, "With the 30th pick in the 2010 NBA Draft..."

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