Syracuse loses 2 schollies due to APR

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Syracuse's men's basketball team was docked two scholarships.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2010-06-09-academic-progress-rate-report_N.htm

The Orange's basketball team scored 912 and could lose up to two basketball scholarships if academically ineligible players leave school before next season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5268018

[goodgreatgrand]

"We have always been above the APR standard since it was implemented. We had three students leave school early to pursue professional basketball careers last spring and that is difficult to overcome, said head coach Jim Boeheim. In anticipation of this, we took the scholarship penalty during the 2009-10 school year.

[bilsu]

This is the problem I have with it. Indiana took their penalty in a year they were not going to use the scholarship anyways. Syracuse losses three players early in the spring, when it is pretty hard to fill the empty scholarships with quality players. So they do not fill one to avoid the penalty when it really matters. I do not think Indiana or Syracuse were really penalized.

[GOO]

Dead on bilsu.  So the next time we have an open scholarship, can we declare it taken/given up for some future unknown penalty?  I know it doesn't work that way, but it may as well.

[goodgreatgrand]

Dead on bilsu.  So the next time we have an open scholarship, can we declare it taken/given up for some future unknown penalty?  I know it doesn't work that way, but it may as well.

True. Boeheim is notorious for only playing a 7 man rotation anyways. Losing a scholarship is prob far less painful for them then, say, Louiville because of the 9 man rotation Pitino uses.

[Brewtown Andy]

I thought guys leaving early didn't affect APR if they were in good standing when they left?

[Jay Bee]

I thought guys leaving early didn't affect APR if they were in good standing when they left?

My understanding is that those players could be a 1/1 instead of a 2/2... but yes, not a 1/2 score... so, if you're a perfect APR, there's no impact.. but there is a small one due to mathematics if they leave in good standing. 

In other words, Boeheim might be full of it here.

[goodgreatgrand]

Ok. I did a little bit of research....some of which is what I heard on a radio station while in a nyc smelly cab.

Schools are NOT penalized under the APR system if a player transfers IN GOOD ACADEMIC STANDING or leaves for the NBA IN GOOD ACADEMIC STANDING.

So...Boeheim is blowing a bit of smoke.

Also, the APR is a rolling, 4 year statistic.

The station I was listening to said that Dante Green and Jonny Flynn bounced campus to attend pre-draft workouts before finals and so were automatically considered to be in bad standing. The third was Paul Harris who was apparently "nudged out of the program by Boeheim because he was an academic liability who would have faced suspension if he came back."

Just what I heard. Dont kill the messenger.