NCAA Recruiting Rules Changed today

[ChicosBailBonds]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5082169

Camps and clinics now allowed to be recruiting venues for coaches.

[DavantesInferno]

At the end of the article, the author mentioned that they discussed the proposal of ending printed media guides. Anyone know why they would want this to begin with?

[HouWarrior]

Lest one note the new sickle cell testing and question poss race bias...it stems from a Rice U fb player death who's family  sued and it was found he was sickle cell carrier ( not tested for by school or NCAA) ,which contributed to his death--this is  a lawsuit/liability  fixer

the contact rules at clinics simply undo an unnecessarily foggy muddy practice-- a coach (well known to the kids, incl as to his school job) could work on a kid's pivot style but, god forbid, couldnt discuss his own  college

[kmwtrucks]

On a side note does this rule mean MU can have Elite camps this summer?  I thought the NCAA ruled against them?  I think what the elite camp rule was that MU could not pay high school or AAU coachs to come and work at the camps, which helped in turn to pay for the player's to come.  Mu can have local player's and player's still willing to pay for themselves to come I think.

[HouWarrior]

At the end of the article, the author mentioned that they discussed the proposal of ending printed media guides. Anyone know why they would want this to begin with?

there is a long history/debate--here is summary article from 2009
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/ncaahome?WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/association-wide/media-guide+proposals+affect+more+than+bottom+line_08_28_09_ncaa_news

[ChicosBailBonds]

At the end of the article, the author mentioned that they discussed the proposal of ending printed media guides. Anyone know why they would want this to begin with?

This was an issue more than a decade ago when I was in the department.  Some schools put out absolutely insane media guides as recruiting tools.  Eventually the NCAA said you could only have a color cover and back page because some schools were putting a small fortune into those guides.  The smaller schools still complain that it has become a disadvantage for them to compete with other schools who are churning out highly polished, highly professional guides which they simply cannot afford. 

That was the argument 10+ years ago, not sure if that is still part of the issue today.

[wyoMUfan]

I believe I read somewhere last fall that the media guides are sold (almost as a ticket) to come to the camp / clinic to scout players.
Often times they charge exorbitant amounts of money for these things and smaller schools can't get the recruiting scope of the larger schools w/ more money.

I know this sounds odd because you think "how much could they charge for a packet of paper that would make a recruiting discrepancy" however I am sure the charging for these pamphlets is where the problem springs.

[GOMU1104]

I believe I read somewhere last fall that the media guides are sold (almost as a ticket) to come to the camp / clinic to scout players.
Often times they charge exorbitant amounts of money for these things and smaller schools can't get the recruiting scope of the larger schools w/ more money.

I know this sounds odd because you think "how much could they charge for a packet of paper that would make a recruiting discrepancy" however I am sure the charging for these pamphlets is where the problem springs.

I think you are mistaking media guides for the "information packets" that grassroots tournament organizers charge exorbitant amount of money for at their tournaments. The packets contain the rosters and necessary contact information for the players participating in the tournament. Some tournaments charge a couple of hundred dollars for this stuff. Coaches are fed up, but if they dont buy the "packets," they dont get access to the players.

Media guides are books published by teams/athletic depratments to distribute to the press that covers them. They have info on the players/coaches, statistical info, historical info, info on the team/university, etc. They are often made available for sale and also sent to recruits.

In pro sports, media guides are being phased out in favor of jump drives and online databases.

[wyoMUfan]

good call

[butchbadger]

the Elite camps are the newest way to, if not outright cheat, to shave the rules razor thin.

Give away tons of gear to players, handlers ,and AAU coaches.

AAU coaches get paid big $$ for "speeches" which simply means: "deliver me your kid". But technically it is legal.

This is a flagrant act of giving a sh@t by the NCAA.  I just hope Calipari, Calhoun or Pitino don't get Evansville in too much trouble going forward.

[ChicosBailBonds]

the Elite camps are the newest way to, if not outright cheat, to shave the rules razor thin.

Give away tons fo gear to players, handlers ,and AAU coaches.

AAU coaches get paid big $$ for "speeches" which simply means: "deliver me your kid". But technically it is legal.

This is a flagrant act of giving a sh@t by the NCAA.  I just hope Calipari, Calhoun or Pitino don't get Evansville in too much trouble going forward.

You are correct, it is a problem.  The NCAA is a bit rudderless right now since Brand died, but that will change if they get another reformer in there.  Nancy Zimpher's name has been thrown around as a possible darkhorse candidate.  That would scare the crap out of several coaches, including Mr. Huggins.

[HouWarrior]

espn article linked has been expanded from its 1st version and now adds:

"The council also rejected legislation that would have eliminated one game from the men's and women's basketball seasons but approved two other portions of the proposal. One requires faculty athletic representatives or faculty councils to approve men's basketball schedules. The other requires men's basketball teams to return to campus within 24 hours of a game."

will this change inhibit/complicate scheduling of games if faculty is involved?
does returning to campus w/i 24 hrs cause any teams a problem?

[ChicosBailBonds]

espn article linked has been expanded from its 1st version and now adds:

"The council also rejected legislation that would have eliminated one game from the men's and women's basketball seasons but approved two other portions of the proposal. One requires faculty athletic representatives or faculty councils to approve men's basketball schedules. The other requires men's basketball teams to return to campus within 24 hours of a game."

will this change inhibit/complicate scheduling of games if faculty is involved?
does returning to campus w/i 24 hrs cause any teams a problem?

I'm guessing there would be a Hawaii exemption for that 24 hour rule.

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I'm guessing there would be a Hawaii exemption for that 24 hour rule.

What about a long weekend on the East Coast like we have done before?