The Issue of Creaning

[HoopsMalone]

I just hope if we're going to do some Buzz Cutting that the kid is left with a good situation wherever he goes.  I hate the practice, no matter who it is.  Many programs do it, but some more than others.  In my mind, Buzz Cutting is typically the fault of the coach AND the player\parents.   The expectations by some players and their families is so out of control these days.  They all think they are going to the NBA and the dollar signs are filled in their noggins.

Meanwhile, coaches recruit over players in their attempts to get better, that doesn't sit well with players for obvious reasons. 

Good point about the culture kids grow up with in high school.  Parents and players need to be honest with themselves too with how good they are.  Most players would probably want to give the best school possible a shot.  But there should be some burden on the players and parents on some level.  Maybe someone like Roseboro should have come and played against Burke and Fulce a few times before coming. 

I still think the burden is more on the coaches to be a little more upfront.  These guys are professional recruiters hustling 17 year olds.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I don't know if there should be an amount of transfers type of rule when drawing the line.  I think every time should be looked at on a case by case basis. 

I think the best way to test it is if the player was pushed out for his own play or conduct, or was it that the coach found someone who he thinks is better.  I think these are two different situations and we are only considering Roseboro-type situations.   

Consider this hypo.  Lazar by all accounts was a great student athlete for MU.  Great leader, hard worker, All-Big East talent.   Let's say somehow an exact replica of all the players from the 1996 Bulls all were in high school and only wanted to go to Marquette.  Obviously, they are all better than Lazar.  Is it ok to push out Lazar because 13 players are willing to come and commit to you that you know all play well together.  I know its a silly example, but its exaggerated to make a point.  Would Buzz have the right (or obligation to put the best team on the floor for MU) to push Lazar out for the Jordan/Pippen/Kukoc clones?  Lazar would have been a great teammate and great person for 3 years, but someone better comes along.  Where do you draw the line then?  I think this is the harder thing to consider.

I think a Roseboro type of situation is different.  There was no big time recruit knocking on the door to take his place last year.  It was just a bad fit.  Roseboro got a great opportunity, and it did not work out for him.  Would he be better off had he not had that opportunity every?  Who knows.  When he is 45 years old, I am sure he won't mind telling people he had a scholarship offer from a Big East school. 

Agree 100%.

I'm not against transfers (like Rosario), I'm just saying I don't want to see teams regularly trying to trim the bottom of their roster and bring in new guys.

I know that's not exactly happening now, but where does the "he's just not good enough" argument end?

[housecreaning]

I just hope if we're going to do some Buzz Cutting Creaningthat the kid is left with a good situation wherever he goes.  I hate the practice, no matter who it is.  Many programs do it, but some more than others.  In my mind, Buzz Cutting Creaningis typically the fault of the coach AND the player\parents.   The expectations by some players and their families is so out of control these days.  They all think they are going to the NBA and the dollar signs are filled in their noggins.

Meanwhile, coaches recruit over players in their attempts to get better, that doesn't sit well with players for obvious reasons.