Duke = Pure Evil

[DCWarriors04]

I don't think I've ever watched a team like Duke get away with so many obvious fouls...great example is Brian Zoubek and his inability to set a legal set screen.

[MU B2002]

i hope Baylor wins by 25.

[texaswarrior74]

They have been getting away with fouls, getting no calls on them and doing the flop for so long that it makes me hate them.

K (aka ratface) is not the saint that the media portrays him to be and many of his players can't wait to get out of his program....you wanna talk about transfers.....look at dook.... Outside of Durham he is not well liked by most people in North Carolina.

Pray that Baylor just beats them.....a beating would be much nicer but I will settle for a dook loss any way I can get it.

[State Street Warrior]

Of course Duke is pure evil, everyone knows that, just look at their mascot.  What kind of Religious school would unite behind blue "DEVIL"?   It is similar to having a blue demon like Depaul.  And it has been scientifically proven on this board that Depaul is EVIL so...      DEPAUL = evil = blue demon = blue devil = Evil = Duke.

[reinko]

Duke is not a religious school.

[willie warrior]

Not that I want Duke to win, with their rep and luck, they will probably win it all with the upsets that already have occurred.

[MikeyT42]

They have been getting away with fouls, getting no calls on them and doing the flop for so long that it makes me hate them.

K (aka ratface) is not the saint that the media portrays him to be and many of his players can't wait to get out of his program....you wanna talk about transfers.....look at dook.... Outside of Durham he is not well liked by most people in North Carolina.

Pray that Baylor just beats them.....a beating would be much nicer but I will settle for a dook loss any way I can get it.

not really sure i see the same portrait you're painting... care to elaborate?

[robertoc]

Sure, pure evil.  I hate it when a team graduates players, has players that can actually speak in complete sentences and aren't total thugs, plays team oriented basketball (great passing, shooting, team defense, etc);  and is still great every year. 

[MikeyT42]

Sure, pure evil.  I hate it when a team graduates players, has players that can actually speak in complete sentences and aren't total thugs, plays team oriented basketball (great passing, shooting, team defense, etc);  and is still great every year. 

+1

[MarquetteDano]

Outside of Durham he is not well liked by most people in North Carolina.

That is probably true though keep in mind that is the classic Public vs. Private issue.  I am sure you could say the same about Unversity of Miami, Clemson, Vanderbilt, etc..  Duke wins a lot so that usually intensifies the dislike.  I am no Duke fan but the reality is that being a big-time private university generates a lot of hatred from your state, no matter what you do right or wrong.

[Final Four or Bust]

That is probably true though keep in mind that is the classic Public vs. Private issue.  I am sure you could say the same about Unversity of Miami, Clemson, Vanderbilt, etc..  Duke wins a lot so that usually intensifies the dislike.  I am no Duke fan but the reality is that being a big-time private university generates a lot of hatred from your state, no matter what you do right or wrong.

In North Carolina the schools with the biggest following BY FAR are UNC and NC State.  Not only is the Duke public/private thing going against them, they are also filled with students from the NE so there is that North/South/local/outsider thing going against them.

That said, i hate Dook.  I also picked them in my pool because everyone else was going with others, so i have a chance to win a bunch if they win out.  That said, i still feel dirty cheering for them, and Singler looks like the living dead out there.  (Also helps I took a flyer on the team that beat both Kansas & Kentucky this year to make it to the finals - Tennessee).

[texaswarrior74]

not really sure i see the same portrait you're painting... care to elaborate?

I wasn't speaking particularly about last night but more about the way they play in general.

They get away with endless hand checks, moving screens, and their patented flop like no other team in college basketball. The the number of charging fouls always called against their opponents best players....gee go figure....is insane.

K's constant screaming and non stop profanity plus his perpetual dropping of F-bombs in every game is so bad that that people don't like bringing their kids to their away games. Also one reason that most North Carolinians outside Durham and dook don't like the guy.

Add to that the fact that the NCAA practically guaranteed them a final four spot with their seeding.....Colin Cowherd and others have ranted and complained about their seed.....the CBS Final Four contract is up for renewal and the NCAA wants at least a three year extension.....

Like ND, dook is a school that people love to hate so they get good TV ratings.....their bracket was such an easy route to the FF with an injury plagued Purdue as their biggest obstacle and even getting the play in game when they were NOT the overall #1 seed.

Enough said.

Go Baylor!!!!

[GregClausenForever]

I wasn't speaking particularly about last night but more about the way they play in general.

They get away with endless hand checks, moving screens, and their patented flop like no other team in college basketball. The the number of charging fouls always called against their opponents best players....gee go figure....is insane.

K's constant screaming and non stop profanity plus his perpetual dropping of F-bombs in every game is so bad that that people don't like bringing their kids to their away games. Also one reason that most North Carolinians outside Durham and dook don't like the guy.

Add to that the fact that the NCAA practically guaranteed them a final four spot with their seeding.....Colin Cowherd and others have ranted and complained about their seed.....the CBS Final Four contract is up for renewal and the NCAA wants at least a three year extension.....

Like ND, dook is a school that people love to hate so they get good TV ratings.....their bracket was such an easy route to the FF with an injury plagued Purdue as their biggest obstacle and even getting the play in game when they were NOT the overall #1 seed.

Enough said.

Go Baylor!!!!

They generally get away with more than their opponents, but last night, the refs were just letting both teams play.  Purdue was being more physical and "got away" with even more.

Yes, Coach K works the officials like none other (except maybe Izzo), but don't credit him for the wins so far.

Impartial fans are just as happy to see Duke lose or get upset, so I don't buy the whole "TV ratings" thing. 

And Duke was a top 5 team for much of the season.  They are #1 in the Pomeroy ratings.  They were #3 RPI I believe.  They earned their #1 seed.

In past seasons, the overall #1 has NOT played the play-in team.

[chapman]

Sure, pure evil.  I hate it when a team graduates players, has players that can actually speak in complete sentences and aren't total thugs, plays team oriented basketball (great passing, shooting, team defense, etc);  and is still great every year. 

Agree.  Ridiculous amount of hate just because they win games.  Not so sure of everyone in NC hating them either; quite a few Duke fans in my company's office down there, and they're native to the area.     

[Aughnanure]

Agree.  Ridiculous amount of hate just because they win games.  Not so sure of everyone in NC hating them either; quite a few Duke fans in my company's office down there, and they're native to the area.     

+1, and every prominent white Duke player always receives a ridiculous amount of hate

[texaswarrior74]

^

Like JJ Redick didn't deserve it?   Major D-bag....

[State Street Warrior]

Duke is not a religious school.

Everything I have read said that it still has a Methodist affiliation, I could be wrong though.  But yeah over all there are a lot worse universities and teams.  Also, since the only really despicable act that I can remember hearing about was the Lacrosse incident that turned out to be false it is not to bad.  They do seem to get a lot of calls and favorable matchups in the tournament though.

[karavotsos]

Ridiculous amount of hate just because they win games.     

I don't think that you can call it just winning games when your best player intentionally stomps on another player's chest when he's lying on the ground, is allowed to remain in the game and then hits the #1 or #2 buzzer-beater of all time.  That's the kind of thing that's worth hating.  That's the kind of thing that gets burned in people's memories.

[texaswarrior74]

Or when K sent Henderthug in to intentionally hurt Hansborough near the end of a game, he threw a vicious elbow knocking out a few teeth and taking him out with a concussion and K's response was "why was he still in the game?"

They didn't even call an intentional foul because the game was at dook....

If you've paid ANY real attention to dook basketball (other than the gospel according to dookie V) you know what I mean....

As to their top 5/10  ratings.......look at the fact that they that hardly ever schedule true out of conference away games....always at neutral sites....Gonzaga at the Garden, Iowa State in Chicago .....their two true non conference away games (other than their pushovers) they lost.....in Madison against UW and Georgetown in DC....they do it EVERY year......look it up if you don't believe me....and they NEVER get the top Big 10 teams in the Big 10-ACC Challenge...always middle teams.....

again...enough said

Go Baylor.....

[TallTitan34]

Coach K is 100% a**hole.

Dan Bernstein from 670 The Score attended Duke in the early 90's.  He has several stories portraying Coach K as a total a-hole with one story in particular.

The student newspaper wrote a preseason player by player review of all of the Duke basketball players.  In the review, a list of strengths and weaknesses were given for each player. When Coach K saw that the newspaper had written negative comments (the weaknesses) about the players he was pissed.

Coach K invited all of the student reports to Cameron telling them that they would get unlimited access to interview the reporters.  When the time came the student reporters entered Cameron and they found the players sitting, waiting to be interviewed.  Out of nowhere Coach K comes in and chews their asses out for 10 minutes about writing negativly about his players.

Bernstein said it got so bad that several of the players (who didn't know this was going to happen) later contacted the student reporters to apologize.

This is just one of many incidents Bernstein has spoke of on the air.

[beaconwarrior]

Stupid thread.

1.) Why was Duke's the easiest route? Because they didn't play Butler or Northern Iowa? If Duke had beaten those two in the round of 32 then Sweet 16 people would say both those are weak mid-majors. There's no easy route in March, let's get serious.

2.) Duke basketball is historically one of the classiest collegiate programs ever run since Coach K stepped in. He recruits all the right players with exceptional talent who play team basketball. They don't pound their chest or yell to the crowd after plays. They play basketball - what they're on scholarship to do.

3.) I agree Zoubek's play should have been a block but it didn't change the game. Rebounds and 3-pointers decided the end. Not a charge. It's a judgement call by the refs that they get wrong more than once a game, so don't say Duke gets all the calls - happens everywhere in the country.

4.) Everyone seems to love Izzo and hate Coach K. Why? I have no idea. Izzo paces the bench and is in the ref's ear all game. Coach K talks to the ref some but sits back and let's his players run the game.

Stupid thread

[karavotsos]

1.) Why was Duke's the easiest route? Because they didn't play Butler or Northern Iowa? If Duke had beaten those two in the round of 32 then Sweet 16 people would say both those are weak mid-majors. There's no easy route in March, let's get serious.

2.) Duke basketball is historically one of the classiest collegiate programs ever run since Coach K stepped in. He recruits all the right players with exceptional talent who play team basketball. They don't pound their chest or yell to the crowd after plays. They play basketball - what they're on scholarship to do.

3.) I agree Zoubek's play should have been a block but it didn't change the game. Rebounds and 3-pointers decided the end. Not a charge. It's a judgement call by the refs that they get wrong more than once a game, so don't say Duke gets all the calls - happens everywhere in the country.

4.) Everyone seems to love Izzo and hate Coach K. Why? I have no idea. Izzo paces the bench and is in the ref's ear all game. Coach K talks to the ref some but sits back and let's his players run the game.

Stupid thread

1)  That can't be the reason because Butler didn't play Butler or No. Iowa either, so that would make their route equally as easy.  W. Va. too.  I think that most people agreed that Duke had the softest bracket at the beginning of the tournament.  I think that they probably had the easiest road to the Final 4 of all 4 teams, but other teams did slip up and no route is 'easy'.

2)  Are you sure that classiest isn't a code word for something else?  Who are your top 5 classiest programs? 

3)  I agree.  It should have been a block and Baylor lost because their zone gave up a ton of 3's and offensive rebounds.

4)  Great summary of the difference between Coach K and Izzo as coaches.  It did make the rest of the thread look stupid by comparison.

[MarquetteDano]

The consipracy theorists will love this one....

http://www.theonion.com/articles/ncaa-to-strip-duke-of-its-0809-losses,17162/

[WildBill77RT]

I don't think I've ever watched a team like Duke get away with so many obvious fouls...great example is Brian Zoubek and his inability to set a legal set screen.

Wait, what? You're saying that Duke gets all the calls? Crazy talk! Next you'll tell me that Ricky Martin is gay.

[texaswarrior74]

One reason I really dislike K goes back two years.

In March of 2008 Eve Carson, the UNC student body president, Morehead Scholar and Phi Beta Kappa honoree was kidnapped from her off campus home robbed and brutally murdered by two thugs from Durham. This took place less than a week before the first UNC/Duke game of the year that was to be played at Duke.

To their credit the Duke student body organized an event to honor the memory of Eve and had Carolina blue ribbons made up for everyone attending the game. Prior to the tip off, both teams met at a mid court ceremony to pay their respects and the players and coaches for both teams wore the blue ribbons...with one exception.....K.

Afterward he was questioned about his decision to not wear the ribbon, even on Mike and Mike and his excuse was lame at best....he said he already wore an American flag on his lapel and he wasn't going to take it off....everyone asked why not add the blue ribbon and he never gave a answer......his lack of class and character was clearly shown to a national TV audience that night.

Here's an article from today's Sun Times that add a little more to why people dislike Duke and especially K.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/morrissey/2132168,CST-SPT-morrissey31.article