Buzz is not a good game coach revisited

[connie]

Funny.  After a loss the "game coach haters" come out of the woodwork.  Not many complaining about his game coaching abilities with the 3 OT wins, and the last 9 uut of 10 victories.

Really.  There are times we all think we know better than the coach.  We should keep it to ourselves.

No doubt. 

[bluegold0608]

All the people hating on Buzz for not fouling before NDs three should think about this. Lets say we foul, they make 1, intentionally miss the 2nd(like many others are complaining about), get their own rebound, and put it back in to tie the game anyways. Then you would bitch about Buzz fouling in the first place. Maybe you should all just remain fans and leave the coaching to the coaches.

[tower912]

gumbyandpokey, considering that every post you make is about how bad Buzz is (unless it is about how bad Fr. Wild is), your sheer lack of posts disproves your central thesis.   

[Marq]

Buzz's coaching was good during most of the game. Except when he gets a little too animated when unfortunate things happen. (Example the T). Buzz's worst coaching of the game came in the OT. With i believe around a minute and a half and 3 TO left we jacked up three consecutive shots from beyond the arc. After getting the offensive rebound on the first miss, Buzz needed to call TO and set up a play or tell his men to take the ball to the hoop instead of jacking up 3's. Plenty of time left to win/tie the game.

Buzz's biggest learning curve as he moves forward is learning when to call TO's Effectively. He seems to be getting better, but still has some work to do.

[gumbyandpokey]

All the people hating on Buzz for not fouling before NDs three should think about this. Lets say we foul, they make 1, intentionally miss the 2nd(like many others are complaining about), get their own rebound, and put it back in to tie the game anyways. Then you would bitch about Buzz fouling in the first place. Maybe you should all just remain fans and leave the coaching to the coaches.

What you've written is exactly why you foul in that spot.  Look at all that has to happen correctly for ND to tie the game.  They have to make the first FT.  They have to miss the second FT.  They have to get the rebound.  Then the have to score another basket.

Doing all of those is much more difficult that making a single 3 pt shot, imo.

Brey owned Buzz in the coaching dept yesterday.

[pillardean]

What you've written is exactly why you foul in that spot.  Look at all that has to happen correctly for ND to tie the game.  They have to make the first FT.  They have to miss the second FT.  They have to get the rebound.  Then the have to score another basket.

Doing all of those is much more difficult that making a single 3 pt shot, imo.

Brey owned Buzz in the coaching dept yesterday.

That's an awful example.

Foul with more than ten seconds.  Abromitas hits both.  They foul before we get ball in, no time is run off.  We miss the first free throw of a one and one.  They have ten seconds down by one.  I'll take ten seconds up by three over ten seconds up by one anyday.  I'll make them get lucky bounce and then a three point make at the end of reg to tie before they get ten seconds to hit any shot to win.

[pillardean]

Doing all of those is much more difficult that making a single 3 pt shot, imo.

Brey owned Buzz in the coaching dept yesterday.

Brey owned Buzz because he fouled at the end?  Is that what you are saying?  Or are you talking all game?  Because I would object to both.

You cannot look at what ND did in OT with the same perspective as what MU did at the end of Reg.  They are not identical situations, in fact they are not even SIMILAR situations.  Things are not black and white.  Only a feeble mind like yours would believe so.  Go eat some Crumb Cake and shut the He** up.

[Ari Gold]

Buzz really can't help it if the two senior guards went out with more of fizzle than a Bang. Cooby and Mo really struggled yesterday.

Buzz also can't help it that the team went 4-23 from beyond the arch. Had we hit our season average 8/23-ish, people like gumby would be praising the team for their win and how great it was for seniors to go out on top.

[Marq]

Buzz also can't help it that the team went 4-23 from beyond the arch. Had we hit our season average 8/23-ish, people like gumby would be praising the team for their win and how great it was for seniors to go out on top.
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But dont you think that its Buzz's job to make the adjustment to his players and tell them to take the ball to the hole when they aren't shooting so hot. Instead, of shooting 3/4 of your possessions in overtime from beyod the arc???

[jaygall31]

Funny.  After a loss the "game coach haters" come out of the woodwork.  Not many complaining about his game coaching abilities with the 3 OT wins, and the last 9 uut of 10 victories.

Really.  There are times we all think we know better than the coach.  We should keep it to ourselves.

+1

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Buzz is learning. Remember this is his first year here and look what he has accomplished. i am giving him some slack.

[ChicosBailBonds]

All the people hating on Buzz for not fouling before NDs three should think about this. Lets say we foul, they make 1, intentionally miss the 2nd(like many others are complaining about), get their own rebound, and put it back in to tie the game anyways. Then you would bitch about Buzz fouling in the first place. Maybe you should all just remain fans and leave the coaching to the coaches.

That's the chance you take.  Do you let a guy hit a 3 pointer...only one thing has to happen.

Or, do you make him sink a free throw (1 thing), miss a free throw (2nd thing), get a rebound (3rd thing), make a basket (4th thing).  

A lot more has to go right.  Of course, time on the clock determines whether you do this strategy or not.


As far as leaving the "coaching to the coaches", there are many coaches that would foul in that situation. One of them was there yesterday, his name was Mike Brey and he did exactly that at the end of the game.

Look, there are two philosophies on this, but the fouling philosophy certainly isn't some ludicrous out of left field tact.  It's employed by many coaches.  That's all anyone is saying.  

It's ok, critiquing a coach isn't a bad thing, we seemed to be able to do it all the time with the previous coach but with the current one we can't without being called out.  Strange.

[Ari Gold]

Buzz also can't help it that the team went 4-23 from beyond the arch. Had we hit our season average 8/23-ish, people like gumby would be praising the team for their win and how great it was for seniors to go out on top.


But dont you think that its Buzz's job to make the adjustment to his players and tell them to take the ball to the hole when they aren't shooting so hot. Instead, of shooting 3/4 of your possessions in overtime from beyod the arc???

If We scored 60 points and only have 12 coming from beyond three where the hell do you think our points where coming from? Buzz made the adjustments. We did great scoring inside the paint. But why wouldn't you still want to take an open look from 3 considering we're a 40% team?