Buzz a subpar coach in end of game situations

[79Warrior]

A 3 pt shot from Butler?

Who is dumber, gumby or pokey?

[gumbyandpokey]

It would have been stupid for MU to foul then.  SJU got the ball with 36.7 seconds left with the worst scenario being they would be tied and there would still be time left for Buzz to call a time out for a game winner...which is exactly what occurred even though MU missed.  If we foul, the shot clock resets at 35 and SJU can take more time to get a shot up taking any leverage away from Buzz nad our defense.  Buzz played it well all the way through tonight.  Good use of time outs to stop runs on the road.  

Didn't MU have a foul to give at that point? 

[Dave Krupinski]

I was all over Buzz the entire game. I don't have a voice left but I have respect for the guy. In the beginning of the game he didn't have a clue but he adjust midway through the first half and started trapping the ball along the perimeter putting an end to St. John's ring around the rosie hand the ball off offense. It worked.

I also thought Buzz did a nice job of making sure he got the ball by his bench in order to call TO's at the end of the game. I had a bird's eye view of his huddles and saw he drew up a few plays per TO I guess going over a few options.

He did run pretty much the same play coming out of each TO at the end of the game running everything through Hayward and Butler running off of screens from each other but hey who wouldn't run something for those 2 guys?

[T.V. Diener 34]

Obviously the people posting about the lack of end of game strategy have never played basketball before... you don't set up a play specifically for ONE guy at the end of a game.  You set up a play with multiple options and rely on the basketball IQ of your players to recognize the best possible option and go from there... I have no problems with either play at the end of the game and neither should anyone else.  A wide open 3 from JB and letting JB create off the dribble are both good options.  Who knows, if the ball doesn't get stripped who is to say that JB doesn't dish it off to someone for another wide open look... it just so happened that it DID get stripped and he took the ONLY option available at that point which was a jump shot as time expired... and game over

[muole]

great thread.  buzz did a great job of managing this game.

buzzer beating win in OT on the road.  end of argument.

[wyzgy]

A 3 pt shot from Butler?

geez gumball, either yer trying to hone some deep seated desire to poke a journalistic stick at us and create a "buzz" about BUZZ or you're showing signs of that trike crash without a helmit when you were four years old.  sub-par coach??  let's be honest here-what were our expectations coming in to this season?? i believe buzz has blown all of those up.  this was one tough atmosphere and we're flyin home with a W  

[avid1010]

well the whole thing looked like a pathetic attempt at a drawn up play .......

there wasnt even a thought about going inside .



buzz is really a sub par coach all around,   decent recruiter thus far..... but man these game decisions are making me scratch my head.

I want to take a moment this morning to nominate you as having the most pathetic posts on this board.  Thank you for all the laughs.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Didn't MU have a foul to give at that point?  

And where didn't I say that we had one to give?  I again remind you there was also 36.7 seconds on the shot clock and we had a three point lead.  Why use your empty foul with the lead?  And then reset the shot clock?  What does wasting a foul with that much time and a 3 point lead get you?  Nothing.  

An empty foul there is wasted as it then puts SJU in the bonus on the next foul AND there is still plenty of time to get off a designed play and shot--in a less contested way because you just had us waste our non-shooting foul.  Or, under your plan, this would put SJU to the foul line if the 2nd foul occurred for free points and without any time ticking off.  Why not save that foul in case some one breaks free on a drive?  Why would you want to reset the time clock -- and eliminate a valuable chance for a last shot to win?  Why not play the odds that a 22% trey shooter will miss?  Why stop the clock so Norm Roberts can set up a designed play?  At that point with the 3 point lead, you want to speed up the game.

Now, your argument makes sense if MU has a three point lead under 10 seconds to play...where fouling and the inbounding takes up valuable time.  What if SJU missed the three, MU got the rebound, came down and missed the free throws.  Wouldn't you want to waste your foul with 15 seconds left?  At 36.7, not so much.

[ChicosBailBonds]

It would have been stupid for MU to foul then.  SJU got the ball with 36.7 seconds left with the worst scenario being they would be tied and there would still be time left for Buzz to call a time out for a game winner...which is exactly what occurred even though MU missed.  If we foul, the shot clock resets at 35 and SJU can take more time to get a shot up taking any leverage away from Buzz nad our defense.  Buzz played it well all the way through tonight.  Good use of time outs to stop runs on the road.  

Agree. You don't foul in that situation unless there is under 10 seconds to play.  With that much time on the clock, you let it play out.