Selection Committee

[amgine]

Does the selection committee reward good wins better than bad losses? It got me thinking, what scenario would have helped our chances of making the tourney more?:

Loss at Depaul, win at UCONN
Win at Depaul, loss at UCONN

[77ncaachamps]

Better question: Do they look at DePaul's losses AFTER Jerry was fired? They almost played themselves into an upset over Cuse the other day.

IF so, then the DePaul loss won't have the stink we thought it deserved.

[Doctor V]

Does the selection committee reward good wins better than bad losses? It got me thinking, what scenario would have helped our chances of making the tourney more?:

Loss at Depaul, win at UCONN
Win at Depaul, loss at UCONN

I'll be the first knucklehead to say it, since many will think it

Win at Depaul, win at Uconn

Im all honesty, I believe this is an RPI issue more than anything. I think the loss at Depaul kills MU's RPI more than the win at Uconn helps. That said, if Depaul were able to close out games like the one against Cuse, or could win 3-4 more BE games and not end the season with a horrendous RPI and conf record, that loss wouldnt look as terrible. So as it stands, the 2nd scenario would be better. By the end of the season it all depends on what both opponents do from here on out (if UConn shits the bed and doesnt turn it around and DePaul stays with one win we can blame the bball Gods)

[The Lens]

Why does losing to DePaul kill our RPI?

Isn't RPI:

25% our winning pct
50% our opponent's winning pct
25% our opponent's opponent's winning pct

I would say what kills our RPI is playing DePaul.  Does the RPI have a metric that penalizes you for bad losses?

[bilsu]

I thought the same thing, but not because of RPI. If we are a bubble team, than we get compared to other bubble teams. My fear is that DePaul ends up with only one Big East win (although they still play Rutgers twice) and the committee sees it as a very bad loss.

[Doctor V]

Why does losing to DePaul kill our RPI?

Isn't RPI:

25% our winning pct
50% our opponent's winning pct
25% our opponent's opponent's winning pct

I would say what kills our RPI is playing DePaul.  Does the RPI have a metric that penalizes you for bad losses?

Hmm you might be right. I am not sure, but if that is the case then simply playing DePaul twice hurts MU's RPI

That said, where you get penalized is losing to a team with a crappy RPI, and Id imagine the Blue Demons dont have a very good one

[ErickJD08]

Every bubble team has a bad loss.  All our other losses are VERY respectable and we have quality wins (Georgetown DESTROYING Duke helps).  One more quality win and a 7th or 8th place in the Big East should get us in.

[mu_hilltopper]

DePaul is still our biggest RPI killer.

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Marquette.html

Scroll down about 80% of the way down where MU's expected end of year RPI is sorted by the teams that contributed to it.  It's titled "BY EXPECTED (END-OF-SEASON) HELP INDEX: (top)"

At the very bottom is DePaul.   (Admittedly, I don't fully understand the math, but if I read that correctly, DePaul hurts our RPI the most .. and strangely, the losses to Nova help our RPI the most. If someone can explain it better, please do...)