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PuertoRicanNightmare

Against the Bulls/Derrick Rose, Jennings looked like he shouldn't even be starting...although Bogut looked like an All Star.

Hards Alumni

A good read, and about how I feel about him... He could be really good if he can get his shot down.  And he seems to be working REALLY hard at it.

Bogut is ALMOST a really good player... he is pretty good right now... just needs to be consistantly better... definitely underperforming for an overall #1 pick.

LON

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 15, 2010, 10:20:52 AM
A good read, and about how I feel about him... He could be really good if he can get his shot down.  And he seems to be working REALLY hard at it.

Bogut is ALMOST a really good player... he is pretty good right now... just needs to be consistantly better... definitely underperforming for an overall #1 pick.

Lew Alcindor he is not.

4everwarriors

We'll see how Jennings' body holds up in the second half of the season as opposing coaches get more physical defending him.
Nonetheless, he'd look really good as a sophomore guard in college ball. Passes very well, has excellent court vision, and is mercury bringing the ball up the court.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

reinko

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 15, 2010, 10:20:52 AM
A good read, and about how I feel about him... He could be really good if he can get his shot down.  And he seems to be working REALLY hard at it.

Bogut is ALMOST a really good player... he is pretty good right now... just needs to be consistantly better... definitely underperforming for an overall #1 pick.

Maybe not under performing that much...looking back at the last 20 #1's, I would throw him somewhere in the middle of this group based on results thus far.  Put him ahead of Griffin (gimmie I know), Oden, Bargnani, Kwame, & the Kandy Man.  With potential to be as good as, or better than Joe Smith, Derrick Coleman, Larry Johnson, & the Big Dog.

Year   Name   Team   School/Country
2009  Blake Griffin             LA Clippers                          Oklahoma
2008   Derrick Rose        Chicago                                 Memphis
2007   Greg Oden                Portland                                 Ohio State
2006   Andrea Bargnani        Toronto                                 Italy
2005   Andrew Bogut        Milwaukee                          Utah
2004   Dwight Howard         Orlando                          SW Atlanta Christian Academy (GA)
2003   LeBron James         Cleveland                          St. Vincent-St. Mary HS (OH)
2002   Yao Ming                  Houston                           China
2001   Kwame Brown          Washington                           Glynn Academy
2000   Kenyon Martin          New Jersey Nets                   Cincinnati
1999   Elton Brand   Chicago     Bulls                                   Duke
1998   Michael Olowokandi   Los Angeles Clippers           Pacific (Cal.)
1997   Tim Duncan                  San Antonio                           Wake Forest
1996   Allen Iverson          Philadelphia                           Georgetown
1995   Joe Smith                  Golden State                           Maryland
1994   Glenn Robinson          Milwaukee                           Purdue
1993   Chris Webber          Orlando                           Michigan
1992   Shaquille O'Neal          Orlando                           Louisiana State
1991   Larry Johnson          Charlotte                           Nevada-Las Vegas
1990   Derrick Coleman          New Jersey                           Syracuse

LON

Quote from: reinko on January 15, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
Maybe not under performing that much...looking back at the last 20 #1's, I would throw him somewhere in the middle of this group based on results thus far.  Put him ahead of Griffin (gimmie I know), Oden, Bargnani, Kwame, & the Kandy Man.  With potential to be as good as, or better than Joe Smith, Derrick Coleman, Larry Johnson, & the Big Dog.

Year   Name   Team   School/Country
2009  Blake Griffin             LA Clippers                          Oklahoma
2008   Derrick Rose        Chicago                                 Memphis
2007   Greg Oden                Portland                                 Ohio State
2006   Andrea Bargnani        Toronto                                 Italy
2005   Andrew Bogut        Milwaukee                          Utah
2004   Dwight Howard         Orlando                          SW Atlanta Christian Academy (GA)
2003   LeBron James         Cleveland                          St. Vincent-St. Mary HS (OH)
2002   Yao Ming                  Houston                           China
2001   Kwame Brown          Washington                           Glynn Academy
2000   Kenyon Martin          New Jersey Nets                   Cincinnati
1999   Elton Brand   Chicago     Bulls                                   Duke
1998   Michael Olowokandi   Los Angeles Clippers           Pacific (Cal.)
1997   Tim Duncan                  San Antonio                           Wake Forest
1996   Allen Iverson          Philadelphia                           Georgetown
1995   Joe Smith                  Golden State                           Maryland
1994   Glenn Robinson          Milwaukee                           Purdue
1993   Chris Webber          Orlando                           Michigan
1992   Shaquille O'Neal          Orlando                           Louisiana State
1991   Larry Johnson          Charlotte                           Nevada-Las Vegas
1990   Derrick Coleman          New Jersey                           Syracuse

Certainly better than Blake Griffin...

God surely does despise the Clip-show

groove

Portland made a big mistake drafting a 32 year old Oden. Oden got his birth certificate from the same place as US soccer player Freddy Adu.

GGGG

Quote from: LancesOtherNut on January 15, 2010, 10:32:01 AM
Lew Alcindor he is not.


No, but if you look at the draft that year, it is hard to say the Bucks made a mistake.  Bogut is arguably the fourth best player to come out of that draft behind Chris Paul, Deron Williams and Danny Granger.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NBA_Draft

Yeah, if you do it over you pick Paul, but that wasn't a good draft and the Bucks picked a solid guy.

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