OT: Miss America Tonight, 7pm

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Marquette84 has GOT to be SJS1 from the Ahoya board. He's been stalking me for a couple years now.

Incidentally, my point about Trend was that it was lazy recruiting. Our target turned us down so we immediately offered one of his teammates who wasn't on anybody's radar. The guy admitted he was stunned to get the offer!

at the risk of keeping a crappy thread alive, this is what I think some people are talking about with PRN and a couple of others.

MU could be #1 in the country for 10 years in a row and they could change the nickname back to warriors, and you would still find something to complain about with the coaches, or logo, or admin., or arena, etc. etc.

I'm not sure if Trend was a good recruit or a bad one (too early to tell as he is only about 1/2 way through his first year). Obviously the staff has had some great successes (DW3, Diener, Novak, Jackson, DJ) and some misses (James Matthews, Niv, Bell, etc)

I don't think the staff is immune from being criticized, but I would say the "whole" of the program is better than the "sum" of PRN's gripes.

I personally think Trend isn't a great recruit, but I also know that Crean and Co. have had some success with recruits that weren't highly ranked. I realize Trend was way under the radar, but I think it was a calculated risk taken by the staff. If he doesn't work out, he will be gone after next year... so it's not the end of the world.

If you want to be critical, write something insightful and provide an educated point of view. Please just don't gripe about EVERYTHING you don't like.

I'm not sure why you are bitter towards MU. Some people have some legit reasons to be bitter, MU isn't a perfect institution.

But, it's becoming more apparent with every post you make that something happened with this current administration and coaching staff and nothing is going to satisfy you.

[Marquette84]

Marquette84 has GOT to be SJS1 from the Ahoya board. He's been stalking me for a couple years now.

You JUST figured that out?  Even Murff knew within a day or two!

Frankly, I'm beginning to think that YOU have to be wwk from the other board.  He could be counted on to make nothing but negative statements 100% of the time as well.

And don't feel special--I don't single you out for criticism.  I'll reply to anyone anywhere when there's a baseless, excessive, overly-negative, or unwarranted anti-MU statement made.  You just seem to make more of them than anyone else--without any positive statements balancing them out.

Our target turned us down so we immediately offered one of his teammates who wasn't on anybody's radar.

This has GOT to be the first recorded case of ANYONE calling Tom Crean a lazy recruiter!

You might have a point IF it were the first day of the early signing period AND there were hundreds of equally qualified recruits who haven't yet committed to programs AND Crean decided not to pursue any of them and take Trend instead.

But that wasn't the case, was it? 

Stemler didn't turn us down until late in the spring signing period.  The last day for contact with recruits (per the NCAA recruiting calendar) was April 30th.  Stemler turned us down on May 1st.  Blackledge signed on May 4th. 

http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/membership_svcs/recruiting_calendars/2005-06/d1_m_basketball.pdf

So even if Crean WANTED to search out new recruts, he wouldn't have been able to under NCAA rules.

But apparently you think following the NCAA rules is "lazy recruiting". 

But lets take this debate one step further--you suggest that Crean simply took the first guy to come along--which of course means that you think there were others who were better than Trend that Crean could have landed if only he weren't so lazy.

So, here's my challenge to you:  Name them.

Hell, name even one!!

I'll bet you can't! 

I'll bet you can't name one single player who was still available as of May 4th who you think Crean should have been recruiting instead taking Blackledge.  Someone who signed with anothe team and is adding more value than Trend has with MU.

Time for you to put up or shut up on this.