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MU Chi_IL

So with Maymon and Erik Williams on board, I wanted to see who everyone thinks is MU next top priority.  I think most folks around here agree that a PG is the top position, so I wanted to see who should be the top target. Based on what I have read, I would love to see Dixon come to MU.  Since MU has two top 100 kids signed, I think it makes the situation look a lot better for a top 100 pg. If Buzz signs another (and hopefully two)  top 100 kid, this could be the best class in a looooong time (including the three amigos).


2009 commitments
SF - Erik Williams (verbal) - http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball_recruits/erik_williams
SF/PF - Jeronne Maymon (verbal)
http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball_recruits/jeronne_maymon

2009 Hopefuls

PG

Other Positions


RJax55

Good list, MU Chi.

In addition to the needs of a point guard and a big man for this class, I would really like to see Buzz add a pure shooter. David Brown out of Rockford is a guy that is said to be an excellent shooter and it seems MU interest in him is beginning to pick-up.


TJ

Quote from: MU Chi_IL on May 27, 2008, 11:19:08 AMIf Buzz signs another (and hopefully two)  top 100 kid, this could be the best class in a looooong time (including the three amigos).
Hopefully 3!  I don't think Buzz is going to fill the last '08 scholarship in hopes of finding a better talent available in '09.

I can't really give a good answer to your question, so any PG that Buzz thinks is capable.  I don't presume to know anything about any of these kids.  I trust the staff to get the best one they can.

Chili

But I like to throw handfuls...

MU Chi_IL

Good point, commitments it is...

I am surprised posters have no opinions on the next great MU point guard...!

Wareagle

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Quote from: MU Chi_IL on May 27, 2008, 01:27:38 PM
Good point, commitments it is...

I am surprised posters have no opinions on the next great MU point guard...!
I hope MU signs any player on that list aside from Lacy.  Averaging only 3-4 assists in fast-paced AAU games doesn't scream "point guard of the future" to me.  He may be a great fit at a different school, but with the scoring options MU is bringing in, I would like a more passing oriented player at the 1.

Wareagle

Quote from: RJax55 on May 27, 2008, 11:33:15 AM
Good list, MU Chi.

In addition to the needs of a point guard and a big man for this class, I would really like to see Buzz add a pure shooter. David Brown out of Rockford is a guy that is said to be an excellent shooter and it seems MU interest in him is beginning to pick-up.


That true shooter may come in the form of Kyle Kelm in 2010. 

dwaderoy2004

Basically, not Johnnie Lacy.  THe kid can score, but we don't need that from our point.  plus we flat out have to get a PG for 2009.  if he doesn;t qualify, we are very screwed.  I hope we add one of the others.  preferably a taller point...

Marquette_g

I think it depends what we do with the extra 2008.  As I stated in another post, I like the idea of a transfer with our extra 08.  However, if we bank it then I think Lacy is fine.

I'd like to see:

True PG
Lacy
Another Big - Wilson would be great, but doubtful in my opinion.

THEGYMBAR

Wilson and Lacy and you have a top 10 recruiting class.

bma725

The list you have is incomplete, MU is in on at least 4 more top 100 PG prospects, Mfon Udofia, Darius Morris, Darius Smith and Nick Russell...and that's just the ones I remember off the top of my head.

If it were me, I think Udofia and Morris would be the top two choices but I'd be ok with Dixon, Smith and Bledsoe.  Beyond that I'm not sure.  Russell is talented, but he's more of a combo guard, not a true point and I think we need a true point.  Colvin is more talented than his ranking shows, but he's also not a true PG, he didn't even really play it for his HS team.  Walton i don't know enough about, either way.

Lacy I would stay far away from.  A month ago I would have said yes.  But I got the oppurtunity to watch him play more, and I changed my mind.  He's not a PG, not even close.  He's an undersized shooting guard, who shoots ill advised shots often with limited success.   When he's hot, he's really hot, but when he's off, watch out.  And given that his own high school coach has talked about his academic issues, it is a risk MU can't afford to take.

wadesworld

I'm not saying we should hope for Lacy, and I'm not even sure what I say will be true as I have not seen him in person (saw a televised game once), but I think his game will change in college depending on where he goes.  I think a lot of juniors in AAU basketball always look to score first because that is what they BELIEVE is what a coach looks for.  They want to put up 25 a game because if they do that against good competition they will be talked about.  I think if Lacy were to come here and we were to get Wilson as well I believe he would change his play to be a pass first point guard with the ability to take over a game scoring wise if needed.  It's kind of like Dominic James...when he's playing team basketball and getting 14 points and 8 assists we kill teams, but we all get frustrated when he becomes the chucker and gets 20 and 2 assists.

Again, don't know for sure if he'd change his game in college, but it seems like AAU ball, from what I have seen, is a way for kids to show their scoring ability and that is what they attempt to do, and everything else comes as less important stuff.  We'll see what happens.

I would like to have somebody with more size, though.

jce

Quote from: Wareagle on May 27, 2008, 01:36:46 PM
That true shooter may come in the form of Kyle Kelm in 2010. 


I have seen Kyle Kelm play, and "pure shooter" isn't a very good description.  He's a big guy who can step out and shoot the three, but, and my definition of pure shooter might be different than yours, he's not like Novak, or UW's Bohannon, or Stepan Curry who can just bury shot after shot no matter what is going on around him.

Wareagle

Quote from: jce on May 27, 2008, 02:57:11 PM

I have seen Kyle Kelm play, and "pure shooter" isn't a very good description.  He's a big guy who can step out and shoot the three, but, and my definition of pure shooter might be different than yours, he's not like Novak, or UW's Bohannon, or Stepan Curry who can just bury shot after shot no matter what is going on around him.
I think reasonable minds can differ.  Kelm shot 45% from three this year as a sophomore.  While there may never be another Wisconsin player as lights out from 3 as Novak, Kelm still has time to develop a unique skill set in his own right by adding a back to the basket game that Novak never really displayed at MU.  In short, he may never be the second Novak, but he can be the first Kyle Kelm.

jce

Quote from: Wareagle on May 27, 2008, 03:18:40 PM
I think reasonable minds can differ.  Kelm shot 45% from three this year as a sophomore.  While there may never be another Wisconsin player as lights out from 3 as Novak, Kelm still has time to develop a unique skill set in his own right by adding a back to the basket game that Novak never really displayed at MU.  In short, he may never be the second Novak, but he can be the first Kyle Kelm.

45% at Randolph means nothing when it comes to the BE.  He is going to have quicker, big people defending him, and not some 6'2" big from Podunkville who's never guarded a 6'6" guy in his life not to mention someone who can shoot the 3.  I hope I am wrong, but Greg Steimsma was considered a rather versatile offensive player before he went to Madison.

2TimeWarrior

If Steinsma is any indication of the level of inteligence in the Randolph gene pool, I say get away from Kelm asap!

Wareagle

Quote from: jce on May 27, 2008, 03:25:10 PM
45% at Randolph means nothing when it comes to the BE.  He is going to have quicker, big people defending him, and not some 6'2" big from Podunkville who's never guarded a 6'6" guy in his life not to mention someone who can shoot the 3.  I hope I am wrong, but Greg Steimsma was considered a rather versatile offensive player before he went to Madison.
Yep, I'm well aware that the level of competition isn't stellar in Podunk or Bumblef***.  We'll have a better idea after the AAU season is over where Kelm stands. 

Wareagle

Kelm should be playing at the Al McGuire Center this weekend with the Wisconsin Swing, so everyone can check him out if they so desire.

spiral97

Hmm.. I wonder why there isn't a "If you were a Marquette basketball player you would be home now." sign hanging in the Bradley Center and Al McGuire Center arenas during these kinds of events ;)
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Pakuni

Quote from: jce on May 27, 2008, 03:25:10 PM
I hope I am wrong, but Greg Steimsma was considered a rather versatile offensive player before he went to Madison.

And Brian Butch was considered an NBA-bound high-school All American before he went to Madison.
Then Bo Ryan got a hold of them.
Something for Evan Anderson to ponder.

Anyhow, by all accounts Kyle Klem's game is nothing like Greg Steimsma's.

BrewCity83

Quote from: Pakuni on May 27, 2008, 03:55:28 PM
Anyhow, by all accounts Kyle Klem's game is nothing like Greg Steimsma's.
How about his brain?
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77ncaachamps

If Lacy is having some trouble and - from the sound of it - is not a superior assist man, then pass on him.

Not to say we DON'T need a PG who can score - we do - but we need a PG who can do the Chris Paul: run the court, control the ball, find the open man, and set his players up for easy attempts.
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