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Desert_Eagle

Quote from: tomahawkchop on December 06, 2006, 10:29:08 AM
The guy is an absolute bust...a worthless waste of a roster spot.

I can't say I'm really a fan of his, but thats pretty harsh.
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MUMac

Quote from: Desert_Eagle on December 06, 2006, 10:31:24 AM
Quote from: tomahawkchop on December 06, 2006, 10:29:08 AM
The guy is an absolute bust...a worthless waste of a roster spot.

I can't say I'm really a fan of his, but thats pretty harsh.

Ya think?

Lott has good inside moves and decent athleticism.  Stong, at the post.  A little undersized and not necessarily fleet of foot.  Also, not the best leaper.  Decent hands.

I hoped for more offense from him and more rebounds.  Also wanted him to step up defensively.

I like Lott.  He will not be flashy, but will be important in many games down the road.

tower912

He hasn't played particularly well so far.  He will contribute more against bigger teams where we need someone to bang.   Once again, I will use the Rambis/Iavaroni  analogy.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ecompt

There will be Big East games where we will desperately need Lott to provide quality minutes and at least keep us in the game while Ooze or Burke are in foul trouble. Hell, I think he could be a factor as early as Saturday.

MU71

Don't think he'll ever be "a factor" but he's a serviceable guy with a nice size body.  He doesn't belong in the starting lineup and shouldn't be logging major minutes but he's an OK, off the bench-type player.  Everyone can't be a stud but everyone must know and play his role.  He'll contribute but won't wow anyone.

MU gimp ONE

I would like to see Burke getting some of his minutes.  I know Lott is a senior and Crean likes playing his seniors, but Burke needs this time to develop. 

I believe Burke brings a more athletic body to the offense and a decent size body for defense.  I know he has only showed some brief flashes of what he can do, but we will need him to progress more and that will come through playing time.  don't get me wrong, i like Lott and think he can help us down the road against BE big guys, but we also have to look at the future.
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PuertoRicanNightmare

Actually, it's impossible to tell how much Lott could contribute because the guards dominate the ball so much. I'm sure Lott is every bit Barro's equal offensively, but because he never sees the ball, he doesn't get any numbers.

This is a perfect example of why we've had trouble getting any bigs. We've never used or developed them. Barro could be an exception to this, but that remains to be seen. It seems to me that, despite his great game last Friday, he's back to being an invisible man. I know that our "Big Three" are going to take the majority of the shots, but can't we at least look to pound it inside half a dozen times a game? Barro should be getting 7 or 8 shots a game and Lott/Burke another 5 or 6, especially considering our guards can't shoot.

PuertoRicanNightmare

I don't think Crean has ever shown any unusual allegiance to seniors.

RawdogDX

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 06, 2006, 11:10:00 AM
Actually, it's impossible to tell how much Lott could contribute because the guards dominate the ball so much. I'm sure Lott is every bit Barro's equal offensively, but because he never sees the ball, he doesn't get any numbers.

This is a perfect example of why we've had trouble getting any bigs. We've never used or developed them. Barro could be an exception to this, but that remains to be seen. It seems to me that, despite his great game last Friday, he's back to being an invisible man. I know that our "Big Three" are going to take the majority of the shots, but can't we at least look to pound it inside half a dozen times a game? Barro should be getting 7 or 8 shots a game and Lott/Burke another 5 or 6, especially considering our guards can't shoot.

I seem to remember us having another big who put up pretty decent numbers... what was his name again?  he was around a lot in 2003...

PuertoRicanNightmare

You mean the guy that spent his first three years at Mississippi St., earning all-conference honors there?

I wouldn't call that a development project, despite the fact that our coach basically claims he couldn't tie his shoes when he arrived.

bma725

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 06, 2006, 11:56:53 AM
You mean the guy that spent his first three years at Mississippi St., earning all-conference honors there?

I wouldn't call that a development project, despite the fact that our coach basically claims he couldn't tie his shoes when he arrived.


Actually it was RJax who made all the claims of Crean turning him into a better player, not the other way around.  But its nice to see your hatred of Crean continues.

PuertoRicanNightmare

You are 100 percent wrong. In the past (on Ahoya), I have linked to stories where Crean discusses Jackson's utter lack of coordination, despite his stellar numbers at Miss. St.

I do not feel like searching for these stories right now. But whatever. Maybe you're right...maybe Robert Jackson took great pride in telling people that he couldn't catch and couldn't make a layup when he got to Milwaukee. That makes perfect sense. A lot of people would say such things to make their coach look better.

You're wrong.


muhoosier260

lol. FIESTY! i think the point here is ooze is not the first big man in the recent era of marquette basketball...regardless of other big men's history before coming to MU

WashDCWarrior

Lott is not RJax.  No one is debating that.  But he's someone Crean is comfortable having on the floor.  His role is similar to Terry Sanders: to provide minutes and make few mistakes.  Obviously he's not a star, but a role player that will continue to play a role throughout the season.

bma725

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 06, 2006, 12:17:10 PM
You are 100 percent wrong. In the past (on Ahoya), I have linked to stories where Crean discusses Jackson's utter lack of coordination, despite his stellar numbers at Miss. St.


Not at all. RJax was on Steve Hawyood and Bill Johnson's show on 1510AM(back when they had one) and admitted that he couldn't use his left hand, didn't have any range on his jumper, wasn't in good enough shape to run the floor when he got to MU.  He talked about how he got by on brute strength at Mississippi State, not on talent.

Crean may have taken the idea and run with it, but it was RJax who started it.

tomahawkchop

Quote from: WashDCWarrior on December 06, 2006, 12:32:19 PM
Lott is not RJax.  No one is debating that.  But he's someone Crean is comfortable having on the floor.  His role is similar to Terry Sanders: to provide minutes and make few mistakes.  Obviously he's not a star, but a role player that will continue to play a role throughout the season.

But what role does he fill?  He doesn't score, doesn't rebound, and doesn't defend particularly well.  All he does is take up some space on the floor (usually looking lost in the process).

I just don't see what he's done to earn even a little bit of playing time, much less the starting role he was given.

WashDCWarrior

If I remember correctly from Midnight Madness, he has a pretty good 8-10 ft jumpshot.  He could potentially be used as a dumpoff if a driving guard gets double-teamed.  I haven't seen it so far, but there's potential.

I've only watched the 3 televised games so far and wasn't focused on Lott, but my guess is his playing time is due to how he practices, seniority, the fact that he doesn't make many mistakes, and has decent size.  My guess is that as Burke and Blackledge grow into Crean's system, Lott's time on the court will decrease.  But right now, he's a known commodity and they're not.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: WashDCWarrior on December 06, 2006, 04:30:28 PM
I've only watched the 3 televised games so far

Wow...you're good.  I think the third one is this weekend - how'd that turn out for us?  ;D

HoopDreams

Lets just say it was nice to see Fitz start last nite..there's just something missing with Jamil, and I am not sure if Crean started him because of senority or thought he actually had a significant impact as a starter.
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WashDCWarrior

Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 06, 2006, 04:37:08 PM
Quote from: WashDCWarrior on December 06, 2006, 04:30:28 PM
I've only watched the 3 televised games so far

Wow...you're good.  I think the third one is this weekend - how'd that turn out for us?  ;D

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RawdogDX

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 06, 2006, 11:56:53 AM
You mean the guy that spent his first three years at Mississippi St., earning all-conference honors there?

I wouldn't call that a development project, despite the fact that our coach basically claims he couldn't tie his shoes when he arrived.


In your post you said "we've never used" any bigs.  My point was that there's more than one guy who put up numbers.  I'm not talking about who developed him, i'm talking about usage of his abilities.

WashDCWarrior

Quote from: tomahawkchop on December 06, 2006, 04:15:49 PM
Quote from: WashDCWarrior on December 06, 2006, 12:32:19 PM
Lott is not RJax.  No one is debating that.  But he's someone Crean is comfortable having on the floor.  His role is similar to Terry Sanders: to provide minutes and make few mistakes.  Obviously he's not a star, but a role player that will continue to play a role throughout the season.

But what role does he fill?  He doesn't score, doesn't rebound, and doesn't defend particularly well.  All he does is take up some space on the floor (usually looking lost in the process).

I just don't see what he's done to earn even a little bit of playing time, much less the starting role he was given.

Todd Rosiak from last night's chat:

"I think Lott could be an effective player off the bench, providing rebounding and defense in limited minutes, if he chose to embrace that role. "

miltownsports

Quote from: HoopDreams on December 06, 2006, 04:48:42 PM
Lets just say it was nice to see Fitz start last nite..there's just something missing with Jamil, and I am not sure if Crean started him because of senority or thought he actually had a significant impact as a starter.

Honestly id rather have Blackledge/Hayward/Burke start over Jamil and Fitzgerald.  I dont' understand why they start.  I never see either make a play.  I mean they're servicable bodies but ive already seen Blackledge be a force vs. Northwestern and Burke/ hayward have more athleticism and power around the basket.  JMO, but id go 1. Ozze 2. Blackledge 3. Burke/ hayward 4. Fitz 5. Lott
maybe start lott for 2 minutes so blackledge and others dont have as much pressure to produce.

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