NFL head coach GOAT

[Uncle Rico]

Yes. My bad as I remembered Johnson's defenses and conservative games. That said, the RPO has been transformational

Agree. 

In an alternate universe, he gets the Packers job after Holmgren.  Ron Wolf alludes to as much in his book about his time in Green Bay but he wanted a coach with experience.

Given Reid's relationship with the Dongslinging Welfare Bandit, I wonder if he would have held him responsible instead of what happened which was Rhodes and Sherman not holding him responsible at all while head coach.  They might have gotten a second title instead of the Welfare Bandit "gunslinging" it to the opponent like political bribes in the post-season

[The Sultan]

Honestly I think that's Wolf protecting his legacy a bit - as he is want to do. The Rhodes hire was a terrible one that everyone knew would be terrible.

[Uncle Rico]

Honestly I think that's Wolf protecting his legacy a bit - as he is want to do. The Rhodes hire was a terrible one that everyone knew would be terrible.

He admitted it was a terrible hire and that he screwed the pooch not giving more consideration to Reid

[JWags85]

He had a very good DC in Philly.  Jim Johnson was one of the best.

Johnson's sickness and untimely passing is what actually predicated the end of Reid in Philly, IMO.  McDermott stepped in and did not do well.  And Reid, in one of the most bizarre personnel moves in ages, essentially replaced Jim Johnson with Juan Castillo...the OL coach...on a team 2 years removed from the NFCC and who had just won 11 games in back to back years.  One of my roommates at the time was a huge Eagles fan and was actually speechless.

[dgies9156]

Lombardi was the best ever.

His downfall was he wasn't a great personnel guy. Look up Jack Vainisi to see who the hero was in that regard.

Lombardi's style would never work today.

Brother Semantics:

Right on! Jack Vainisi built that team, top to bottom. Lombardi worked to get people like Willie Wood, Willie Davis, Henry Jordan and Fuzzy Thurston, but the core of the team came through Vainisi and high draft choices brought about by the Packers general suckiness in the 1950s. Worth reading "When Pride Still Mattered" to see Vainisi's role.

The key on-the-field component was Bart Starr and he was a Lombardi creation. Starr was a 17th round draft choice. He was smart and tougher than nails. Lombardi made him among the best ever. In my view, Tom Brady and Bart Starr were the two best, ever. Starr was an incredibly decent human being to boot.

My choices for best coach ever.

Coach Lombardi
Don Shula
Bill Belichick
Tom Landry
Chuck Noll
Bill Walsh
Joe Gibbs
Bud Grant
Hank Stram
Jim Lee Howell

(spaces are deliberate)












George Halas
Mike Ditka

[Dr. Blackheart]

Brother Semantics:

Right on! Jack Vainisi built that team, top to bottom. Lombardi worked to get people like Willie Wood, Willie Davis, Henry Jordan and Fuzzy Thurston, but the core of the team came through Vainisi and high draft choices brought about by the Packers general suckiness in the 1950s. Worth reading "When Pride Still Mattered" to see Vainisi's role.

The key on-the-field component was Bart Starr and he was a Lombardi creation. Starr was a 17th round draft choice. He was smart and tougher than nails. Lombardi made him among the best ever. In my view, Tom Brady and Bart Starr were the two best, ever. Starr was an incredibly decent human being to boot.

My choices for best coach ever.

Coach Lombardi
Don Shula
Bill Belichick
Tom Landry
Chuck Noll
Bill Walsh
Joe Gibbs
Bud Grant
Hank Stram
Jim Lee Howell

The Vainisi Brothers had quite the legacy. Bud Grant in the Top 8?Good lord.

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I like this list.
https://athlonsports.com/nfl/25-greatest-head-coaches-nfl-history

[Jockey]

Brother Semantics:

Right on! Jack Vainisi built that team, top to bottom. Lombardi worked to get people like Willie Wood, Willie Davis, Henry Jordan and Fuzzy Thurston, but the core of the team came through Vainisi and high draft choices brought about by the Packers general suckiness in the 1950s. Worth reading "When Pride Still Mattered" to see Vainisi's role.

The key on-the-field component was Bart Starr and he was a Lombardi creation. Starr was a 17th round draft choice. He was smart and tougher than nails. Lombardi made him among the best ever. In my view, Tom Brady and Bart Starr were the two best, ever. Starr was an incredibly decent human being to boot.

My choices for best coach ever.

Coach Lombardi
Don Shula
Bill Belichick
Tom Landry
Chuck Noll
Bill Walsh
Joe Gibbs
Bud Grant
Hank Stram
Jim Lee Howell

(spaces are deliberate)












George Halas
Mike Ditka

Parcells, Reed, and John Harbaugh need to replace the last three on the list.

[WhiteTrash]

I like this list.
https://athlonsports.com/nfl/25-greatest-head-coaches-nfl-history

Agreed. Good list. I often forget how good Madden was.

[Pakuni]

Agreed. Good list. I often forget how good Madden was.

Always a jolt to be reminded that Madden was just 42 when he retired from coaching.