Ranking elements of success in CBB

[MUFanSince77]

1) System+star talent+fit > 2) system + star talent > 3) system + good talent + fit > 4) system + fit with limited talent > 5)  system with limited talent/fit and 6) talent no system > 7) no system no talent

My view is Wojo had us squarely in 6), Buzz was somewhere in the 1) - 3) range (didn’t enter as stars but clearly Butler, Crowder and others got there, and UW has primarily been at 3). 

Now to Shaka, certainly a system, looks to be good talent but hard to say star level day 1 and fit could be a question mark minus great inside or pg play and def is a ?.  That said, getting the guys he wants and the best talent/fit of those who remain, speed and athleticism plus a year of teaching system and another recruiting class makes me believe 21-22 will be a step forward relative to Wojo) based on the scale above and 22-23 could be a home run to 2) or 3) with possible greatness on the horizon.

[WarriorFan]

Crean was at 2 (Wade)
Buzz 3
Wojo 6 (Markus was star talent but no system)

As for Shaka - let's see a few games first. 

And I think the analysis is missing culture.  Fit is part of culture.  The culture of a program and having all players, assistants, admin, etc buy in to a strong positive culture is part of winning.

[MUFanSince77]

Edited above to change Wojo to 6).  Added a number after I’d first typed.  6) had been 5).

Agree about Wade.  Crean had somewhat of a system but not to the degree of a Buzz, Tony Bennett or (gulp) Bo.  Great call on culture.  Was focused on the purely basketball elements vs all the factors that ultimately drive success but clearly culture would be one.  Whether an element of fit or the thing that keeps things from going south in spite of the others being there it’s undoubtedly important.