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4everwarriors

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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2021, 11:24:46 AM »
Understandable 'cuz Dayton's no Marquette, hey?
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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2021, 01:20:43 PM »
Cant happen.....we play in the Big East.

Ok, fair.  We are playing like a mid-major and generating similar losing scorelines as a mid-major.

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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2021, 01:34:14 PM »
Ok, fair.  We are playing like a mid-major and generating similar losing scorelines as a mid-major.
Anybody that believes we are more than a mid major is clueless. Wojo has downgraded us even more than that.
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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2021, 01:40:19 PM »
Anybody that believes we are more than a mid major is clueless. Wojo has downgraded us even more than that.

You don't know what a mid-major is.

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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2021, 01:45:34 PM »
The High Major vs Mid Major stuff is silly season.

Eighteen Power 5/Big East Schools are currently worse than MU in Ken Pomeroy ratings. There are also lots and lots "Mid Major" teams doing better than Marquette right now.

Although I'm sure some people enjoy their quick labels (often times fear based) for things that require more individual complex examination.



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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2021, 02:14:44 PM »
You don't know what a mid-major is.
someone get MU82 in here to clear this up

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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2021, 03:23:52 PM »
You don't know what a mid-major is.
Sure I do, but it is obvious you do not.
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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2021, 03:56:17 PM »
Sigh.

Some people use mid-major as a pejorative to say a program is bad.

Others use mid-major to describe conferences outside of the P6 (+AAC depending on who you ask).

Using definition A is always a negative. Using definition B is usually neutral. There are many mid-major programs that are significantly better than several high-major programs.
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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2021, 04:22:22 PM »
Sigh.

Some people use mid-major as a pejorative to say a program is bad.

Others use mid-major to describe conferences outside of the P6 (+AAC depending on who you ask).

Using definition A is always a negative. Using definition B is usually neutral. There are many mid-major programs that are significantly better than several high-major programs.
yep its not even an official term used by the ncca. some people say gonzaga cincy.etc.are high majors playing mid major leagues. its all silly. its used to declare u have top dog status or to mock other teams "below" ours

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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2021, 04:25:17 PM »
yep its not even an official term used by the ncca. some people say gonzaga cincy.etc.are high majors playing mid major leagues. its all silly. its used to declare u have top dog status or to mock other teams "below" ours
I've said it in other threads.  A high major is whatever you think it is.  Any definition of high major that does not include Gonzaga is not a very good definition, IMO.
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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2021, 10:22:20 PM »
Sigh.

Some people use mid-major as a pejorative to say a program is bad.

Others use mid-major to describe conferences outside of the P6 (+AAC depending on who you ask).

Using definition A is always a negative. Using definition B is usually neutral. There are many mid-major programs that are significantly better than several high-major programs.

Sigh.  Our program is bad.  Dreadful even.

This team looks like one of those teams 'high majors' pay to tune-up/crush on their home court early in the season.  We have nearly regressed to cupcake status--thanks to this coach's complete incompetence.  Losing to Nova by >30 points....losing to Depaul on our homecourt....

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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2021, 11:02:40 PM »
Lots of talk about red flags recently. I’ve seen many different points mentioned from season one to the Hauser’s, but the biggest red flag for me was when Wojo forgot the game situation at Butler last season and instructed Bailey to foul in a tie game.

That is the most damning incident for me which reflects on a much larger issue. We’ve all become acquainted with the Wojo deer in the headlights look, but his inability to read game situations and counterpunch tactically when opponents change up will always limit his teams. Coaches in the league figure him out so easily. I don’t know his record in the second games of round robin BE play, but it has to be awful.

A mutual departure at the end of the season will serve both Marquette and Wojo well. This is a bad marriage and will only get worse for both parties if they stay together.
This could be correct or it could be that Wojo would not throw Bailey under the bus for not understanding his instructions.

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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2021, 05:40:44 AM »
This could be correct or it could be that Wojo would not throw Bailey under the bus for not understanding his instructions.

https://twitter.com/mlennon66/status/1220924247285161991?s=21

He was following coaches instructions.

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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2021, 06:23:38 AM »
This could be correct or it could be that Wojo would not throw Bailey under the bus for not understanding his instructions.

You can see wojo calling for it....

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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2021, 06:59:09 AM »
A few red flags for me.  One is the inability to fix our turnovers, defense and ability to handle a press, year after year.  It is so frustrating and shows there’s no improvement in some significant areas.  Every time we see a press, we look like deer in headlights.  The best we’ve handled it is getting the ball past half court.  I’m no bb whiz but if I’m coaching, I coach my team to pundit he other team if they press.  Otherwise, there’s no risk to them.  You have to play aggressive against a press otherwise you’re giving the other team a free pass. 

The biggest red flag is he can’t coach.  Plain  and simple.  Look at his tenure so far.  His “coaching” consists of giving the ball to his most prized player and having them figure it out.  Think Ellenson and Howard.  This leads to his mismanagement of the other players.  It’s terrible for team chemistry.  The housers departure speaks volumes and is VERY telling.  I wouldn’t put up with it as a player.  It’s not like the Housers went to some mid majors.  It’s like I’ve always said, when I find myself in a 3, 4, 5 or more-some, don’t favor any of the girls over the others.  It will lead to issues.......or so I’m assuming it will.  I’ll keep you all posted.   

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« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2021, 07:03:53 AM »
The red flag that finally put me over the edge this year is the complete lack of coaching when facing a full court press. The only set play they have is to have both guards runs towards the ball until they (maybe) find an open spot on the floor which, when they do manage not to throw it to the other team, is in the corner with a double team trap.

Its not like Wojo has never faced a full court trap before this year, yet there is absolutely no plan on how to break it.
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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2021, 08:01:47 AM »
When Junior Varsity HS players have no idea on how to properly defend a fricking OOB play, the coach needs to show them proper technique. 
When it happens at a HM, I don't know what to say.
It is absolutely amazing.
It happened again last night.  Symir gets pinned by JRE. 
Its happened to Cain.  Its happened to GE.
If a HS coach cannot correct this, that should be a red flag.
Not to mention are own in bound plays, inability to finish on fast breaks, etc.
Not a good coach.
This is the type of thing that completely baffles me.  Wojo has been around so much basketball that he absolutely knows the proper technique.  So I struggle with why he can't coach it.  Hell, he's observed great coaches coach it...just do what they do.  The simple things that his teams do wrong year-in and year-out makes me really question the approach to preparation (film, individuals, and team time). 

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« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2021, 08:17:48 AM »
This is the type of thing that completely baffles me.  Wojo has been around so much basketball that he absolutely knows the proper technique.  So I struggle with why he can't coach it.  Hell, he's observed great coaches coach it...just do what they do.  The simple things that his teams do wrong year-in and year-out makes me really question the approach to preparation (film, individuals, and team time).

I’ve been convicted for years that we don’t watch film. That’s the only explanation of why we make the same mistakes over and over
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« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2021, 08:32:07 AM »
I’ve been convicted for years that we don’t watch film. That’s the only explanation of why we make the same mistakes over and over

Do you watch games from jail?

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Re: Red Flags
« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2021, 08:42:33 AM »
Watt wuz yo felony conviction, hey?
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« Reply #45 on: February 12, 2021, 10:11:21 AM »
It takes 5 years not 7.

 

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