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Quote from: MU82 on February 02, 2021, 10:55:29 AM
Sure, I'd pick Moser before I'd pick Wardle.

I have to wrap my head around the fact that Moser did nothing of consequence as a head coach before the FF run. Then again, he has built on Loyola's success since then, and he's been an assistant to some good coaches, including Majerus. I'd certainly be rooting hard for him if he's hired, but that's the way I'm wired. I'm still rooting for Wojo.

Wow way to just ignore his huge CBI championship. Shame on you.
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Quote from: Marq3332 on February 02, 2021, 11:10:47 AM
somehow I knew you'd push back. i didn't say a non-Catholic can't push the mission of a Catholic school. I feel it's unlikely, often times. But did I say a coach cannot?


I wasn't responding to you.
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I would have fired Wojo the day the Hauser's left town.

MU82

Quote from: Goose on February 02, 2021, 02:19:31 PM
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I would have fired Wojo the day the Hauser's left town.

Again, it's very easy to say today, after we've seen last year's collapse (second straight season with one) and this year's suckitude, that he should been kicked to the curb in April 2019.

But while I have no reason to doubt your sincerity, I don't remember you saying that back then.

Maybe you did. Or maybe you just thought it.

Obviously, with 20/20 hindsight, that's when we should have done it ... making Marquette one of the few schools (maybe the only one?) in the last quarter-century to fire a non-cheating, non-abusive coach after his team was a 5-seed.

EDIT: Goose, I took a very quick look back at your posts after Hausershima. While you did not come right out and say, "Fire Wojo," I think that's more due to your style being relatively understated. You repeatedly said he was "in over his head," and that the program very well might never recover from the way Hausershima went down -- which I'll take as your way of saying, "Fire Wojo."

So I guess I should say, um, congratulations?

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I was boarding a plane for China at the time the news broke and it was the final straw to me. We can debate the departure or value of those two guys all day long, but losing both of them was not a high point for the program. While Wojo was not my guy I really did think he had a chance to deliver the goods and gave him a chance. I liked how he recruited five star guys and tried to land them. That being said, I noted several years ago that I saw no real system/plan in place and that troubled me.

Seeing the results on the court is one thing and we all can agree not much to cheer about this season, which is disappointing. It still looking like no system is in place is far worse IMO. You and I debated my saying "there was a reason why he was an assistant for "x" years" and it is quite obvious to me why that was the case, he is still in over his head after seven years.

MU82

Quote from: Goose on February 02, 2021, 03:56:24 PM
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I was boarding a plane for China at the time the news broke and it was the final straw to me. We can debate the departure or value of those two guys all day long, but losing both of them was not a high point for the program. While Wojo was not my guy I really did think he had a chance to deliver the goods and gave him a chance. I liked how he recruited five star guys and tried to land them. That being said, I noted several years ago that I saw no real system/plan in place and that troubled me.

Seeing the results on the court is one thing and we all can agree not much to cheer about this season, which is disappointing. It still looking like no system is in place is far worse IMO. You and I debated my saying "there was a reason why he was an assistant for "x" years" and it is quite obvious to me why that was the case, he is still in over his head after seven years.

I wish I could debate you and make a cogent case in Wojo's defense, Goose ... but after 6 1/2 years, with all that's gone down since Feb. 26, 2019, I can't.

Hausershima made me sit up and say, "It's a coach's job to build chemistry, not to let lack thereof tear a team apart. Even though I think the Hausers are partly to blame, this is mostly on Wojo." I also was very concerned about his ability to recruit after that happened.

But then we got off to a good start last season AND he secured Garcia, DJ, Lewis and Osa, and I was reasonably satisfied. Then came yet another collapse, and I said, "That's it. He's officially on the clock for me."

Well, the clock finally has struck midnight for me.

I'm a patient guy in all facets of my life, and I am an eternal optimist. Plus, I knew that even if I screamed "Off with his head!" Marquette honchos weren't gonna cut off his head. So I was probably too patient.

That being said, even though I finally am with you and other NoJos, I simply don't see him getting fired after the season no matter what happens. So I'll still try my best to stay hopeful and to enjoy watching our hard-working players compete.

I will defend the players when Scoopers throw out terms like, "They quit" or "They mailed it in." It's inaccurate, unfair and mean. And I'll even defend Wojo when I think folks are blaming him for stuff unfairly. There is so much to get on his case for, I hope folks will stick to things that actually are his failings rather than making up crud like "He just doesn't care." I don't know Wojo at all, but I am sure he cares.

End of rant. Thanks for the conversation, my friend.



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