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The Equalizer

Does anyone know what happens with scholarship count if an underclassmen were to leave when you also have extra-year seniors on the roster?

If those extra year players choose to leave, it's probably safe to assume you don't get those scholarships back. 

But what happens if an underclassmen were to leave when you're carrying more than 13 scholarships?  Are the extra-year players excluded from the count, and would teams, therefore, be able to replace those departing underclassmen? Or is your roster capped until your count falls below 13 including extra-year players?   

In MU's case, assuming we're maxed out on scholarships or next year and if Koby, Jamal, and Theo return; and that results in three underclassmen leaving, could we replace those departing underclassmen with additional new recruits or inbound transfers?  Or would we have to assign the scholarship count to Koby, Jamal and Theo before adding to the roster? 

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: JWags85 on January 05, 2021, 12:16:22 AM
The Badgers starting lineup is older on average than at least one NBA team (I believe the Knicks)

The Bulls starting 5 were mentioned as younger in a recent WI game.

Ardmore Mug

Quote from: The Equalizer on January 05, 2021, 09:00:23 AM
Does anyone know what happens with scholarship count if an underclassmen were to leave when you also have extra-year seniors on the roster?

If those extra year players choose to leave, it's probably safe to assume you don't get those scholarships back. 

But what happens if an underclassmen were to leave when you're carrying more than 13 scholarships?  Are the extra-year players excluded from the count, and would teams, therefore, be able to replace those departing underclassmen? Or is your roster capped until your count falls below 13 including extra-year players?   

In MU's case, assuming we're maxed out on scholarships or next year and if Koby, Jamal, and Theo return; and that results in three underclassmen leaving, could we replace those departing underclassmen with additional new recruits or inbound transfers?  Or would we have to assign the scholarship count to Koby, Jamal and Theo before adding to the roster?

As I understand it, the schools will be allowed to increase their players on scholarship total by the amount who are staying another year, and I think that will also include any transfers coming in....  8-)

cheebs09

Quote from: BLM on January 04, 2021, 08:41:39 PM
I can't wait to see the Badgers entire starting lineup be in their mid 20s.

Early Barry said they wouldn't honor that at first when it came to non-revenue sports. Now, some football players are coming back for an extra year, including his grandson.

I'm could see if UW makes a nice run this year those guys come back.

brewcity77

Quote from: The Equalizer on January 05, 2021, 09:00:23 AM
Does anyone know what happens with scholarship count if an underclassmen were to leave when you also have extra-year seniors on the roster?

If those extra year players choose to leave, it's probably safe to assume you don't get those scholarships back. 

But what happens if an underclassmen were to leave when you're carrying more than 13 scholarships?  Are the extra-year players excluded from the count, and would teams, therefore, be able to replace those departing underclassmen? Or is your roster capped until your count falls below 13 including extra-year players?   

In MU's case, assuming we're maxed out on scholarships or next year and if Koby, Jamal, and Theo return; and that results in three underclassmen leaving, could we replace those departing underclassmen with additional new recruits or inbound transfers?  Or would we have to assign the scholarship count to Koby, Jamal and Theo before adding to the roster?

Seniors returning to the same program that take advantage would be added to the scholarship count to increase beyond 13. They essentially are just not counted against the total. So you can still have 13 freshmen to seniors, plus the super-seniors.

If they transfer, they still get the extra year but do count against the 13 total. So if Theo decided to stay, Marquette could go above 13 scholarships to keep him. If he decided to play another year but transferred, the program he transferred to would have to fit him under the 13-scholarship limit.

One possible outcome is we could see a number of seniors taking advantage of the extra year but transferring. Maybe Jahvon Blair knows he's not a NBA player, isn't ready to go overseas, and wants to play in the NCAA tournament so he transfers to Michigan State. Or maybe Cameron Krutwig knows he's not going pro and wants another shot at NCAA glory, so he transfers up. Any number of seniors at high majors who never made an impact could try transferring down for one last shot at being a star.

I don't expect a ton of people to take advantage of it, but it could certainly spice up the transfer market if some do.

BCHoopster

Quote from: cheebs09 on January 05, 2021, 10:04:05 AM
Early Barry said they wouldn't honor that at first when it came to non-revenue sports. Now, some football players are coming back for an extra year, including his grandson.

I'm could see if UW makes a nice run this year those guys come back.

Ferguson, Sanborn are redshirt juniors, some seniors might comeback like Dunn, no pro career possible, and Groshuk who probably would not make it to the
pros either.

cheebs09

Quote from: BCHoopster on January 05, 2021, 12:01:18 PM
Ferguson, Sanborn are redshirt juniors, some seniors might comeback like Dunn, no pro career possible, and Groshuk who probably would not make it to the
pros either.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!

brewcity77

Quote from: cheebs09 on January 05, 2021, 10:04:05 AM
Early Barry said they wouldn't honor that at first when it came to non-revenue sports. Now, some football players are coming back for an extra year, including his grandson.

I'm could see if UW makes a nice run this year those guys come back.

I expect you'll see more returning football than basketball players. If you don't make the NFL, there aren't many other pro options, so may as well take the extra collegiate year. Maybe a fringe NFL talent has a big super-senior year and gets drafted, or maybe someone who's a good college player but not a pro prospect contributes to a successful season for his team.

In basketball, with the G-League & so many overseas options, it seems more likely players won't be back. Some will, but I doubt the same numbers as football.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: guzica on January 05, 2021, 09:13:14 AM
As I understand it, the schools will be allowed to increase their players on scholarship total by the amount who are staying another year, and I think that will also include any transfers coming in....  8-)

Nope. Only those who would have exhausted their eligibility and remain at their current institution are exempt from the team limits. All others count against the 13 scholarship limit.
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